Having looked at the agenda, I think we can do without the 2nd session. What I mean is that we can remove presentations from the 1st session that we don't think need face time (Robert pointed at a couple) and move the ones requiring face time from the 2nd session to the 1st.
I don't think we need 10 mins to bash the agenda. I also don't think we need 10mins for draft-ietf-sip-saml-04. We can limit face time to drafts that have open issues to discuss that were not resolveable on the list. Thanks, Hisham On 17/07/2008, Robert Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a really good place to start bashing from. Thanks for going through > the pain it takes to put this together. > > Everyone should take note that the second session has a RAI conflict > (with DRINKS) and think through where to put conversations so that > we minimize the pain caused by the necessary split of people. > > I think I'd rather see the large, architectural questions, > INFO and Identity, moved into the conflict free spot and > put topics with a smaller constituency into the second session. > > I also think people across the working group should chime in with what they > think > the three most important _DRAFTS_ to talk about, in person, at this meeting > are. > I strongly suspect there's a surprise or two that will come out of that. > > I'll throw my own list in later (because I want to think awhile about > what's _not_ > in the proposed agenda), but to help tune things early: > > I do want to talk about 199. > > I don't see why we should spend face time on sip-keep at this point. > > I think we can get away without face time on record-route fix. > (its unlikely at this late stage that we'll find a crisis to work through > there). > > I have received very little feedback on invfix, and I don't think > we need to spend any in-meeting time on the essential > corrections process itself. So, I propose we take that entire > topic to the list and/or hallways. I'll take on pushing a few > key folks to review the big recent changes to invfix and > speak up that they've done so before we get to the meetings. > > Everybody else: If you hold the token on any of the other drafts and feel > you can > resolve any issues you currently have the same way, I strongly urge > you to propose something similar for your time. > > > RjS > > > > On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Dean Willis wrote: > > >> This is the draft agenda for the SIP meeting at IETF 72 in Dublin. >> >> • Note that this agenda is subject to change based on list conversations >> >> • Note that we're still trying to work out how to have the "Identity" >> discussion >> >> Pretty HTML is at: >> http://www.softarmor.com/mediawiki/index.php/SIP_Agenda_IETF_72 >> >> Text follows >> >> ----------------- >> >> Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Tuesday July 29, 2008, >> 1300-1500, Convention 3 >> >> Agenda Bash >> Chairs >> 10 >> >> Using SAML for SIP >> Chairs >> draft-ietf-sip-saml-04 >> 10 >> >> Identify requirements for test matrix to move SIP to Draft Standard >> Robert Sparks >> draft-sparks-sip-steps-to-draft-00 >> 20 >> >> Essential corrections to RFC 3261 (1st batch) >> Robert Sparks >> draft-sparks-sip-invfix-02 >> 15 >> >> Delivery of Request URI and Parameters to UAS Through Proxy >> Speaker TBD >> draft-rosenberg-sip-ua-loose-route-02 >> draft-holmberg-sip-target-uri-delivery-01 >> 25 >> >> >> Mechanisms for UA Initiated Privacy >> Mayumi Munakata >> draft-ietf-sip-ua-privacy-02 >> 15 >> >> MIME body handling in SIP >> Gonzalo Camarillo >> draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-02 >> 15 >> >> Guidelines for double route recording >> Thomas Froment >> draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-03 >> Time TBD >> >> Keepalive Without Outbound >> Christer Holmberg >> draft-holmberg-sip-keep-01 >> 10 >> >> >> Agenda for SIP at IETF 72, Primary Session, Thursday July 31, 2008, >> 1510-1610, Convention 3 >> >> Agenda Bash >> Chairs >> 5 >> >> Termination of early dialog prior to final response >> Christer Holmberg >> draft-ietf-sip-199-00 >> 20 >> >> INFO >> Speaker TBD >> draft-burger-sip-info-02 >> draft-kaplan-sip-info-events-01 >> draft-rosenberg-sip-info-litmus-01 >> draft-kaplan-sipping-dtmf-package-00 >> draft-willis-sip-infopackage-00 >> 35 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >> This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >> Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip >> Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip >
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