> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francois Audet [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:53 PM
> To: Jonathan Rosenberg; Jiri Kuthan; Dan WING
> Cc: SIP IETF; Uzelac, Adam; Dean Willis
> Subject: Re: [Sip] francois' comments and why RFC4474 not 
> used in the field
> 
> For everybody's reference, can you point to Dan's draft?

It is
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wing-sip-identity-media-02

other proposals in the same sphere,
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fischer-sip-e2e-sec-media-00
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-sip-asserter-identity-01

-d


> On Mar30 2009 19:12 , "Jonathan Rosenberg" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > inline:
> > 
> > Jiri Kuthan wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>>  From an end user perspective, I would assert that the 
> most important
> >>> thing is probably the media. If the callerID says, "this 
> is bob", what
> >>> is important to the user, is that when I pick up the 
> phone and start
> >>> talking, it will be Bob who hears me, and Bob that I hear.
> >>> 
> >>> Consider this litmus test:
> >>> 
> >>> If the signaling actually came from Mary (perhaps as a 
> third party),
> >>> but the media goes/comes to/from Bob, who should appear 
> on the caller
> >>> ID? I say - Bob.
> >> 
> >> There is a timing aspect in favor of placing identity in 
> signaling --
> >> I would like to know whose call is ringing before I answer 
> (if I do).
> > 
> > You can still have that. Just don't ring the phone until 
> early media has
> > been exchanged and verified. Indeed if you were doing an 
> ICE-style thing
> > per Dan's draft, you'd get that for free.
> > 
> > -Jonathan R.
> > 
> > 
> 

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