I really think the real point is not "preserving existing SBC behavior" or 
"preserving 4474 behavior".
 
It seems to me the real point that is being made is that perhaps there is a way 
to have a useful Identity mechanism, even while allowing IP addresses and ports 
to be modified in transit, provided that there is a sufficient mechanism for 
allowing (1) the media to integrity protected, (2) the media to be correlated 
to the identity, and (3) allowing for detection media being "cut".
 
I believe Jon was saying that furthermore, it must be detectable if the IP 
address and port was modified in transit. I'm not completly clear why it's 
necessary if all the conditions above are met. Maybe it's part of (3).


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        From: Adam Roach [mailto:[email protected]] 
        Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 19:18
        To: Dan Wing
        Cc: 'Anthony D Pike'; 'Cullen Jennings'; 'Jon Peterson'; [email protected]; 
Audet, Francois (SC100:3055); 'DRAGE, Keith (Keith)'; 'Dean Willis'
        Subject: Re: [Sip] francois' comments and why RFC4474 not used in the 
field
        
        
        Ah, I misunderstood your earlier statement --  "I am really interested 
in preserving identity over [SIP networks today with intermediaries that modify 
SDP in transit]" -- to mean that the intermediaries were not to be modified. So 
we're really both talking about SIP networks for some upcoming tomorrow, not 
SIP networks today.
        
        Good. I think that leaves a lot of common ground to work with.
        
        /a
        

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