Damian wrote:
...
> Something very similar to this was already discussed with 
> relation to existing (and enhanced) discovery mechanisms. It 
> would be a natural extension of the existing functionality to 
> allow administrator to specify to which group all the 
> discovered devices should be automatically added. So once the 
> phone is discovered it can automatically inherit its 
> configuration from the group and sipXconfig can generate 
> configuration profile.

What is the use case for having discovered phones inherit configuration
from a Group?

My hope is that we could filter for unprovisioned Phones without a
Group.  i.e. Add "-unprovisioned-" between "-all-" and "-search-".  Only
Phones with exactly zero Lines assigned would show up under this filter.
This filter would be most useful under Users->xxx->Phones->Add existing
phones.


> That would require using plug-in based discovery mechanism 
> and implementing discovery plug-on that works by analyzing 
> DHCP server logs (that's actually one of the cheapest and 
> most effective way of discovering new devices).

Only works if sipXecs is the DHCP server, right?  That isn't always the
case.  I'm told lots of sites use some Microsoft product...

I think we want something that works regardless of which server (if any)
is providing DHCP.

The XX-6490 prototype will show how it can be done for Polycoms.


> > - Should a User be able to provision and/or un-provision a 
> phone?  Or 
> > should one or both of these be restricted to admins?
> 
> Not sure what you are asking here: setting up the 
> auto-provisioning should be left to admins. But of course it 
> would be users who are interacting with the process - for 
> example by using IVRs.

An _unprovisioned_ phone interacts with the IVR.  A user's credentials
can assign that phone to that user.  The superadmin credentials can
provision that phone for any user.

A _provisioned_ phone interacts with the IVR.  This call is from one of
the registered lines on the phone, which is associated with a sipXconfig
user.  That user's credentials can un-assign that user from that phone.
The superadmin credentials can un-assign all users from that phone.


> Yes - once provisioned phone has to be visible just like 
> other phones. It can be kept within a special group so that 
> all auto-provisioned phones can be automatically found.

A special group for this means that the Phone has a "Groups" edit box,
which will show or not show the special group, depending on whether
there is a Line assigned.  

My problem with this approach is that the Groups value editable.  It'll
be confusing to have a special entry that may appear or disappear, but
that you cannot add or remove directly.


-Paul
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