Marden Marshall ha scritto:
On Sep 11, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Michal Bielicki wrote:

Am 11.09.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Marden Marshall:

On Sep 11, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Martin Steinmann wrote:

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[mailto:sipx-dev->[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lawrence,
Scott (BL60:9D30)
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:21 PM
To: Christopher Coleman
Cc: sipX developers
Subject: Re: [sipX-dev] 4.0.2 breaks yum

On Fri, 2009-09-11 at 15:09 -0500, Christopher Coleman wrote:
For me, I did a clean install of CentOS 5.3 from DVD and installed
sipx using the repo. yum update has worked just fine for me
throughout
4.0.1. I rand yum update today and it found 4.0.2 and I had it
install.

So far I've found it replaced all my .repo files with one and only
one
named sipeces.repo which includes my other repos, BUT has me looking
for software updates for CentOS 5.2 (hard coded into urls) I also
found it removed my /etc/redhat-release file which contained CentOS
5.3 (Final).

Whats up with that?!?
If true, those are bugs.

It is true. Here is what yum says:
Installing:
sipxecs-release                            i386
4.0.2-009184016420                 sipxecs-stable              3.6 k
  replacing  centos-release.i386 10:5-3.el5.centos.1


How did we end up with this? Cannot remember any discussions around a
sipxecs-release RPM that removes repo files.
--martin

This is not a bug, it is done by design.  Our software is only
certified to work with CentOS 5.2.  Any attempt to upgrade to a newer
release leaves the user exposed to possible OS incompatibilities and
service interruptions. They are of course free to override / hack the
repo configurations and live dangerously.  If something breaks as a
result, don't come crying...

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Exposure to security bugs and known OS flaws is preferred ? Sounds somewhat counter productive to me, a bit as if you would state that you know better than the distribution authors what works and what doesn't which I tend to doubt in.


Ask yourself one simple question; What is more important, to have the latest and greatest versions of Firefox, Gimp, etc. or to have a thoroughly tested and reliable PBX system? If the answer is "a thoroughly tested and reliable PBX system", then you will stay with our OS recommendations and use CentOS 5.2. Better yet, pay for a commercial license and as a supported customer you will also be provide with ongoing security updates for the supplied OS.



Hi Marden,
no need to say in my CentOs PBX system I don't have Firefox neither the Gimp. The real point here is: I'm happily running CentOs 5.3 and I installed sipxecs via yum, it's a recommended best practice to change CentOs repos to version 5.2? Could it lead to some untested OS incompatibilities between versions? That of course might cause the system not to be thoroughly tested as wanted?

Said that: you are in perfect right to manage repos file if sipxecs was installed from the iso. And again you are in perfect right to ask me to install a production system using only CentOS 5.2 or simply stick to the version distributed with the iso. But I believe you cannot predict why some user is using CentOs 5.3 or 5.1. They might support other software with different requirements on the same box. I believe there are many reason that should suggest to leave this decision to the admin.

Don't like very much the statement about buying a commercial license. Is the commercial product thoroughly tested against every possibile OS software update? Was not the commercial product based on the same code based of the open source one? What is compatible with last OS update on the commercial product, which I believe could be a super-set of the open source one, shouldn't be compatible with the open-source?

Alberto


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