That's for digging for that one Robert!

Sounds like passing back through to Cisco engineering would be worth it
if anybody here has a Cisco support contract on their phones.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sven
Evensen
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:39 PM
To: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

Bob,

Thanks for the excellent explanation. Do you think/know if the newer
Cisco phones 7941/7961 etc are better or are they same cr**?

Regards,
Sven


-----Original Message-----
From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 12 May 2010 18:09
To: Sven Evensen
Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes

> 
> Bob,
> 
> Have you had a chance to look at the logs I sent.

Ok, I took a look at the logs and I finally found what was wrong.
Nowadays, when I look at traces I tend to assume that the fundamentals
of SIP are sound and focus my troubleshooting efforts on the trickier
parts of the protocol but every once in a while there comes a sad phone
implementation that reminds me that I shouldn't make such foolish
assumptions...

The Route: header that Cisco puts in its ACK is truncated.  It must
contain the entire Route as set by the Record-Route: header it gets in
the 200 OK but Cisco chooses the silently chop it which causes vital
information to be missing from the message.  The call is then treated as
a stale call and the NAT traversal cleanup routine sweeps the media part
of the call away after 5 minutes or so.

I suggest you use a real phone if you have one.

Cheers,
bob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sven Evensen
> Sent: 10 May 2010 17:19
> To: 'JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)'
> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes
> 
> Hi Bob,
> 
> Here is a (hopefully) full snapshot.
> The call is from 8051 to 907795951717.
> The media dropped out after approx 5:05, I hung up 10 seconds later.
> 
> Regards,
> Sven
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 05 May 2010 18:16
> To: Sven Evensen
> Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes
> 
> Sven,
> I looked at the traces and from a media perspective, the ITSP 
> and Cisco are well-behaved which leaves sipXecs as the prime 
> suspect.  I need to assign you more homework.  Please bump 
> the logging level of the Proxy, Media Relay and SIP Trunking 
> to DEBUG and restart those services.
> Reproduce the problem yet again and take a snapshot that will 
> cover the entire call time period.  Send the resulting 
> snapshot directly to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> bob 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sven Evensen [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 11:12 AM
> > To: JOLY, ROBERT (ROBERT)
> > Subject: RE: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes
> > 
> > Hi Robert, here is the attachment.
> > 
> > Sven
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JOLY, 
> > ROBERT (ROBERT)
> > Sent: 04 May 2010 20:35
> > To: Matt White; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] Media drops out after 5-6 minutes
> > 
> > > 
> > > I believe there is a cisco issue.  We had another customer
> > report this
> > > issue with a set of cisco handsets yesterday.  I have not
> > heard back
> > > from our techs what they found yet, but the issue reported
> > to us was
> > > not via sipxbridge but for a remote worker calling to an internal 
> > > extension...so sipxrelay.
> > > 
> > > Calls drop at exactly 5:33 seconds.
> > > 
> > > >>> "Sven Evensen" 05/04/10 11:29 AM >>>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > We have a scenario where a Cisco 7640 dials out through 
> our UK SIP 
> > > trunk to a mobile. After 5 -6 minutes the media
> > > 
> > > suddenly ends. The calls stays up until the parties hang up. 
> > > This does not happen on the Polycom phone
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > The only clue I see is that at the exact time the media
> > goes away, I
> > > can see in sipxrelay.log an entry "pauseBridge".
> > 
> > The pauseBridge entry would be there as a consequence of the call 
> > being terminated by one end.  So, it is the effect, not the cause.  
> > Your best bet is to get a network trace of the problem and 
> send it in.  
> > If you can run 'tcpdump -n -nn -s 0 -i any - w cisco_drop.cap' from 
> > the sipXecs command line, make a call, wait for it to fail and then 
> > send it to me, I'll check that the media and signaling are 
> what they 
> > are supposed to be.
> > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I am really not sure which logging to turn on to dig deeper
> > into this,
> > > can some one advise.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > This is sipX 4.0.4
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Sven
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
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