Thanks (thanks for the those with the off list replies too).
I spoke with a Patton engineer, and it looks like the 4520 series can do 
what I need.
http://www.patton.com/products/pe_products.asp?category=52
I sent a note to Verizon indicating they are going to need to think 
outside their 'product catalog' if they want to keep the project alive.

On 8/24/2010 1:34 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
> I think a patton can. I have one or two laying about and can always get a
> demo for you as a dealer.
>
> Patton has a combo device also (2fxs/2fxo). In either case to interface with
> the old pbx or key systems you want fxs devices to connect to the old CO
> ports on those old systems and give those pbs "dial tone" which can then do
> a sip register to verizon if needed.
> The patton dial plan is flexible enough (example) with a fxo device, if
> someone dials "911" we can have it drop an active call, and complete this
> emergency call.
>
>
> ============================
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> Fax: 434.984.8431
>
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>
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> Telephone: 434.984.8426
> Fax: 434.984.8427
>
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> Sent: Tue Aug 24 14:24:57 2010
> Subject: [sipx-users] Relatively off topic - FXS with POTS failover
>
>    This has nothing to do with Sipx at all. I couldn't think of a better
> group to ask though....
> If that makes this completely inappropriate, I will not add any more
> emails to this thread.
>
> We have 50+ locations where we cannot currently practically put in new
> Sipx systems because of cabling issues. They all have old school systems
> with 8 to 15 handsets and 4 to 8 POTS lines. As part of our overall VoIP
> contract with Verizon, they are putting in FXS boxes at each of theses
> sites so we can use Verizon SIP services without replacing the
> infrastructure.
> Verizon uses Mediatrix 4100s for this. It is a 4104, 4108, or 4116
> depending on the numbers of POTS lines currently in use at the clinic.
> We are leaving one emergency POTS line for backup outbound dialing only.
> This is critical that outbound dialing is not affected if the sip
> trunk/wan circuit goes down.
> At our pilot site, Verizon put in a 4108, and everything seemed to work
> fine until we tested the emergency scenario. The 4108 simply
> bypasses/patches one of the ports directly to the emergency POTS line.
> This doesn't work for us. We never know what line these phone systems
> are set to use, and our testing has shown that different handsets in the
> facilities pickup different outbound lines. We inherited all of these
> clinics, so there is every type of PBX known to man. Attempting to
> reprogram them is not an option. Verizon's plan was to add a second
> device called a Mediatrix 1204. It appears to basically be an FXO box.
> They also were going to use a new firmware for the 4100 box that allowed
> it to fail over to sending its sip traffic to the 1204 if the primary
> Verizon sip trunk was inaccessible. The 1204 then sent it out a POTS
> line. I didn't really like the complexity of the design, but I was
> wiling to go along with it because Verizon was pretty much going to eat
> the cost since their setup didn't perform as they advertised.
> Surprise, surprise, at the last minute, we find out it doesn't work. The
> new code on the 4100 is failing their tests and not working as advertised.
> After this discussion, I told them they need to look outside their
> 'product catalog' and see if there is a more appropriate product.
> What I need is an FXS box that can intelligently route calls out a
> backup POTS line if the SIP trunk goes down. Does anyone know of a
> product from Audiocodes, Patton, etc, that can accomplish this?
> I will be glad to discuss off list if anyone wants to give me a hand here.
> Thanks,
> Matthew
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