Like I said...

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Matthew Kitchin (public/usenet) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Thanks (thanks for the those with the off list replies too).
> I spoke with a Patton engineer, and it looks like the 4520 series can do
> what I need.
> http://www.patton.com/products/pe_products.asp?category=52
> I sent a note to Verizon indicating they are going to need to think outside
> their 'product catalog' if they want to keep the project alive.
>
>
> On 8/24/2010 1:34 PM, Tony Graziano wrote:
>
>> I think a patton can. I have one or two laying about and can always get a
>> demo for you as a dealer.
>>
>> Patton has a combo device also (2fxs/2fxo). In either case to interface
>> with
>> the old pbx or key systems you want fxs devices to connect to the old CO
>> ports on those old systems and give those pbs "dial tone" which can then
>> do
>> a sip register to verizon if needed.
>> The patton dial plan is flexible enough (example) with a fxo device, if
>> someone dials "911" we can have it drop an active call, and complete this
>> emergency call.
>>
>>
>> ============================
>> Tony Graziano, Manager
>> Telephone: 434.984.8430
>> Fax: 434.984.8431
>>
>> Email: [email protected]
>>
>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
>> Telephone: 434.984.8426
>> Fax: 434.984.8427
>>
>> Helpdesk Contract Customers:
>> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: [email protected]
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tue Aug 24 14:24:57 2010
>> Subject: [sipx-users] Relatively off topic - FXS with POTS failover
>>
>>   This has nothing to do with Sipx at all. I couldn't think of a better
>> group to ask though....
>> If that makes this completely inappropriate, I will not add any more
>> emails to this thread.
>>
>> We have 50+ locations where we cannot currently practically put in new
>> Sipx systems because of cabling issues. They all have old school systems
>> with 8 to 15 handsets and 4 to 8 POTS lines. As part of our overall VoIP
>> contract with Verizon, they are putting in FXS boxes at each of theses
>> sites so we can use Verizon SIP services without replacing the
>> infrastructure.
>> Verizon uses Mediatrix 4100s for this. It is a 4104, 4108, or 4116
>> depending on the numbers of POTS lines currently in use at the clinic.
>> We are leaving one emergency POTS line for backup outbound dialing only.
>> This is critical that outbound dialing is not affected if the sip
>> trunk/wan circuit goes down.
>> At our pilot site, Verizon put in a 4108, and everything seemed to work
>> fine until we tested the emergency scenario. The 4108 simply
>> bypasses/patches one of the ports directly to the emergency POTS line.
>> This doesn't work for us. We never know what line these phone systems
>> are set to use, and our testing has shown that different handsets in the
>> facilities pickup different outbound lines. We inherited all of these
>> clinics, so there is every type of PBX known to man. Attempting to
>> reprogram them is not an option. Verizon's plan was to add a second
>> device called a Mediatrix 1204. It appears to basically be an FXO box.
>> They also were going to use a new firmware for the 4100 box that allowed
>> it to fail over to sending its sip traffic to the 1204 if the primary
>> Verizon sip trunk was inaccessible. The 1204 then sent it out a POTS
>> line. I didn't really like the complexity of the design, but I was
>> wiling to go along with it because Verizon was pretty much going to eat
>> the cost since their setup didn't perform as they advertised.
>> Surprise, surprise, at the last minute, we find out it doesn't work. The
>> new code on the 4100 is failing their tests and not working as advertised.
>> After this discussion, I told them they need to look outside their
>> 'product catalog' and see if there is a more appropriate product.
>> What I need is an FXS box that can intelligently route calls out a
>> backup POTS line if the SIP trunk goes down. Does anyone know of a
>> product from Audiocodes, Patton, etc, that can accomplish this?
>> I will be glad to discuss off list if anyone wants to give me a hand here.
>> Thanks,
>> Matthew
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>
>


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Telephone: 434.984.8430
sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.984.8431

Email: [email protected]

LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk:
Telephone: 434.984.8426
sip: [email protected]
Fax: 434.984.8427

Helpdesk Contract Customers:
http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/

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