your big concern here would be to test MOH, you should test extensively transfers, holds, parks, etc.
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Michael Picher <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike, > > If they want an actual refer (and don't need you to login into them) why > don't you try setting them up as an unmanaged gateway and not even use > sipXbridge... Have them route to you on port 5060 in this configuration. > > Mike > > > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Tony Graziano < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Burden, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That pretty much hit the nail on the head. The SIP provider started >>> out in the residential market and is growing. >>> >> Perhaps they can create a trunk with options to use invite instead of >> refer and use a "business class" versus "residential class" service... >> >>> >>> >>> We’re providing them with help in getting their services up to standards, >>> including (at the moment) helping them make a case to the switch vendor that >>> the switch is not handling the re-INVITE correctly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hopefully after we’ve helped them get past their growing pains they’ll be >>> a very good SIP provider. They have been extremely responsive to our >>> suggestions, and they are currently looking to hire additional persons with >>> strong SIP experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> My experience with SIP providers so far (including “big name” providers >>> like Voxitas) is that none of them have everything working completely >>> smoothly yet, so hopefully our provider has time to get some issues worked >>> out and start providing quality business class service before the market is >>> completely dominated by a few large providers. >>> >> I find that even the big providers don't play nice sometimes. They have a >> rule that they only do port 5060 or they dont support mid call codec >> negotiation, or something... which is why you use either sipxbridge or an >> indpendent sbc in front, to get around those issues (sometimes/usually). >> >>> >>> >>> Anyone in the Grand Rapids, MI metro area with a good resume looking for >>> an opportunity with a small company with growth potential? :) >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: cid:[email protected]] >>> >>> * **Mike Burden* >>> >>> [image: Lynk.gif]* >>> Lynk Systems, Inc* >>> >>> * e-mail:* [email protected] >>> >>> * Phone:* 616-532-4985 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Tony Graziano [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:37 AM >>> *To:* Burden, Mike >>> *Cc:* sipx-users >>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] REFER vs INVITE for transfers >>> >>> >>> >>> I don't know of a way to do that unless you use an independent SBC >>> instead of sipxbridge and tell it to allow REFER for that dialplan/trunk >>> (provider). >>> >>> >>> >>> At the same time I don't see how it would be desirable to introduce that >>> into sipxbridge (enable/disable refer). >>> >>> >>> >>> I am assuming your ITSP is a residential provider and not a real business >>> class provider (or their switch vendor is in the residential market)... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Burden, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have an ITSP that is currently battling with a switch vendor on my >>> behalf, because when we transfer a call from extension to extension, we lose >>> audio. >>> >>> >>> >>> The switch vendor is pointing out that they are not getting a REFER from >>> us. This, of course, is because sipXbridge translates the REFER into an >>> INVITE. >>> >>> >>> >>> So... seems you can’t win either way. Many ITSPs apparently don’t handle >>> REFER correctly. Ours apparently doesn’t handle a re-INVITE correctly. >>> >>> >>> >>> Obviously the correct long term solution is for the switch vendor to fix >>> their switch. >>> >>> >>> >>> In the meantime, is it possible to disable this behavior in the >>> sipXbridge? I’ve poked around the sipXbridge page on the sipXecs SBC page, >>> but don’t see anything that looks like it would do this. >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: cid:[email protected]] >>> >>> * Mike Burden* >>> >>> [image: Lynk.gif]* >>> Lynk Systems, Inc* >>> >>> * e-mail:* [email protected] >>> >>> * Phone:* 616-532-4985 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sipx-users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ====================== >>> Tony Graziano, Manager >>> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >>> sip: [email protected] >>> Fax: 434.984.8431 >>> >>> Email: [email protected] >>> >>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >>> sip: [email protected] >>> Fax: 434.984.8427 >>> >>> Helpdesk Contract Customers: >>> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ >>> >>> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? >>> Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> ====================== >> Tony Graziano, Manager >> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >> sip: [email protected] >> Fax: 434.984.8431 >> >> Email: [email protected] >> >> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >> sip: [email protected] >> Fax: 434.984.8427 >> >> Helpdesk Contract Customers: >> http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ >> >> Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? >> Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > > > -- > There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and > those who don't. > > [email protected] > blog: http://www.sipxecs.info > call: sip:[email protected] <sip%[email protected]> > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.984.8431 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.984.8427 Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? 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