The key here is to not discuss this with the switch vendor as a call-transfer. Discuss it as changing the media stream in mid-dialog via a reinvite. I they are not forwarding the re-invite, a lot of stuffs may happen in the RTP stream that will result to a corrupted audio session.

1.  SSRC will change and will be dropped by the receiver
2.  Timestamps/Sequence would change and would be dropped by the receiver
3. If the codec is changed, the payload size and type would change and would be dropped by the receiver.

This list would go on. So the right question to post is if they support re-invites and they seem to not relay it to the remote end, then that is an outright noncompliance to the RFC... period! When you put them on-hold, do they at least hear the MoH? That is not even transfer yet. Thats just plain old re-invite. If they screw up at that point, then there is no use discussing call-transfer even.

Joegen

On Wednesday, 22 September, 2010 03:01 AM, Burden, Mike wrote:

OK, the ITSP got a response from the soft-switch vendor:

We need to clarify some points in order to be sure that we're on the same

page.

As was previously mentioned by my colleague according to our official

documentation and the list of currently supported RFC (2327, 2543, 3261,

3262, 3263, 3264, 3265, 3311, 3323, 3324, 3325, 3428, 3489, 3515, 3581,

3842, 4566) the transfer feature is handling in PortaSwitch by REFER method

(please see RFC3515 to familiarize with the method logic). And it's the only

one currently supported method for performing blind/attended transfer within

existent dialog.

As we can see from the ticket's history, you're referring to re-invite as a

method for transfer establishing. But it's used for modifying session

description parameters within existent dialog (please see section 14

Modifying an Existing Session, RFC3261), such as codecs set, media ports,

etc. The To, From, Call-ID, CSeq, and Request-URI of a re-INVITE are set

following the same rules as for regular requests within an existing dialog.

There are no tools, currently implemented in PortaSwitch that allows any

kind of transfer using re-invite method.

Please provide us with the link to the corresponding RFC that describes

transfer using re-invite method, in order we can inform our Developers about

non RFC-compatible behavior of transfer feature.

I had previously forwarded to them an excerpt from RFC3261:

14 Modifying an Existing Session

   A successful INVITE request (see Section 13) establishes both a

   dialog between two user agents and a session using the offer-answer

   model.  Section 12 explains how to modify an existing dialog using a

   target refresh request (for example, changing the remote target URI

   of the dialog).  This section describes how to modify the actual

   session.  This modification can involve changing addresses or ports,

   adding a media stream, deleting a media stream, and so on.  This is

   accomplished by sending a new INVITE request within the same dialog

   that established the session.  An INVITE request sent within an

   existing dialog is known as a re-INVITE.

      Note that a single re-INVITE can modify the dialog and the

      parameters of the session at the same time.

   Either the caller or callee can modify an existing session.

And if I read the Vendor's response correctly, they are apparently saying that this section of this RFC is not sufficient to indicate that a transfer can be indicated by a re-INVITE rather than a REFER.

Can someone tell me either:

1. Is there another RFC (or another section in RFC3261) that I overlooked that spells this out more clearly

or

2. Can someone tell me what specific parameters of the session are changed by the re-INVITE when an internal transfer is performed? (I assume that said parameters will all be in the list of things that can be changed by a re-INVITE)

Mike Burden

Lynk Systems, Inc

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