On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Paul Scheepens <[email protected]> wrote:
> The http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/  wiki should disappear, as far as I know

yes, i think the only reason we haven't is because like tony said, i
can sometimes find things there in cannot find on current wiki.  i
think goal of rally should be to safely kill (or move to a very
obscure corner of the internet for a while) the old wiki.   it appears
the old wiki was wholly imported but i cannot be confident of that
quite yet.

> all that info is also on
> the new "old wiki":
> http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/oldxx/Home
>
> With every new version of SipX the whole current wiki should be copied to
> wiki.sipfoundry.org/oldxx/ (where xx is version number, not xx :),

I'm still very much opposed to mass copying of wiki

   
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.sipfoundry.general/27266/focus=27280

this will be a maintenance nightmare and unless you flag as read-only,
will definitely get edits meant for current version.

> and all pages should get a banner warning you it's not current, something

there are 100,000 facets documented on the wiki.  Page-level
versioning doesn't always work as a page can have one small change
that applies to an older version or a future version.  A system I
proposed long ago and somewhat adopted was to have the author denote a
facet/page/chapter/etc w/an icon that pointed out a special version
consideration.  As time passes, these version icons can be discarded
or not, not a big deal.

Examples
 http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/The_sipXecs_IP_PBX_Configuration_Server
 
http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/Import_User_and_Device_Data_from_CSV_Files

Some of the reason why the wiki is in such need of TLC was because of
mass copying of pages or starting all new pages. This came thru
- not wanting to disrupting information meant for a particular versions.
- because one more more things on a page didn't apply directly.
- fear or disrupting someone's vision of a page which probably has a
direct correlation to the length of a page.
- disorganized hierarchy
- cannot find things

Like code, if we can decouple things and build cohesive small pages,
we can keep it maintained going forward then we can avoid inventing
extra processes IMHO.  I admit sometimes having a single page with all
information together is useful without going to a different links, but
fact is, that page is probably hard to maintain and will get forked.
Also, authors also have a tendency to write long pages and it's up to
wiki maintainers that understand this issue to dig in and break into
maintainable pieces.

> BTW How is this rally going to take place/how is it organized?

I was thinking we'd set a date/time, create a punch list in a google
spreadsheet, let people grab sections and coordinate on IRC, but feel
free to make suggestions.
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