On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Douglas Hubler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Paul Scheepens <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/ wiki should disappear, as far as I > know > > yes, i think the only reason we haven't is because like tony said, i > can sometimes find things there in cannot find on current wiki. i > think goal of rally should be to safely kill (or move to a very > obscure corner of the internet for a while) the old wiki. it appears > the old wiki was wholly imported but i cannot be confident of that > quite yet. > > > all that info is also on > > the new "old wiki": > > http://wiki.sipfoundry.org/display/oldxx/Home > > > > With every new version of SipX the whole current wiki should be copied to > > wiki.sipfoundry.org/oldxx/ (where xx is version number, not xx :), > > I'm still very much opposed to mass copying of wiki > > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.sipfoundry.general/27266/focus=27280 > > this will be a maintenance nightmare and unless you flag as read-only, > will definitely get edits meant for current version. > > > and all pages should get a banner warning you it's not current, something > > there are 100,000 facets documented on the wiki. Page-level > versioning doesn't always work as a page can have one small change > that applies to an older version or a future version. A system I > proposed long ago and somewhat adopted was to have the author denote a > facet/page/chapter/etc w/an icon that pointed out a special version > consideration. As time passes, these version icons can be discarded > or not, not a big deal. > > Examples > > http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/The_sipXecs_IP_PBX_Configuration_Server > > http://sipx-wiki.calivia.com/index.php/Import_User_and_Device_Data_from_CSV_Files > > Some of the reason why the wiki is in such need of TLC was because of > mass copying of pages or starting all new pages. This came thru > - not wanting to disrupting information meant for a particular versions. > - because one more more things on a page didn't apply directly. > - fear or disrupting someone's vision of a page which probably has a > direct correlation to the length of a page. > - disorganized hierarchy > - cannot find things > > Like code, if we can decouple things and build cohesive small pages, > we can keep it maintained going forward then we can avoid inventing > extra processes IMHO. I admit sometimes having a single page with all > information together is useful without going to a different links, but > fact is, that page is probably hard to maintain and will get forked. > Also, authors also have a tendency to write long pages and it's up to > wiki maintainers that understand this issue to dig in and break into > maintainable pieces. > > > BTW How is this rally going to take place/how is it organized? > > I was thinking we'd set a date/time, create a punch list in a google > spreadsheet, let people grab sections and coordinate on IRC, but feel > free to make suggestions. > At the same time there is a chat feature inside the google spreadsheet. I find it very useful. We did a 100 user conversion of email with three people over a weekend with the duties all filled out. We could watch each team member filling out their completion, ask questions on the side pane to chat, so we were looking at the tasklist/spreadsheet and chat all in one application. Noone ever "had" to pickup their cell or deskphone. The whole conversion took place with a single source of information. A google spreadsheet... When Douglas asked for Testing of items for the current sprint, there was "chatter" there on his spreadsheet too.. > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.984.8431 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.984.8427 Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://www.myitdepartment.net/gethelp/ Why do mathematicians always confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.
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