im a fan of both. though since pfsense is not a cpu hog I NEVER throw a PC at it anymore unless I'm in a jam.
alix devices are cheap, diskless and have low power. the smaller the office the dumber i want the box to be. its better than a consumer device. i also like the small low power servers like the atom based devices. I have one i just installed with 6 NIC's and a 2.5" sata drive with 4gb of nanoflash. yes its more expensive than what i have laying around as parts, but its more reliable because its new and since it uses very little power, it pays for itself in time versus the PC approach. I can do ANYTHING pfsense can do with it, including squid. the room runs much cooler now, thank you! but if you have the pc there now and need it done, do it. you can always backup and restore the config to another device. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote: > I’ve grown fond of the small appliance. As Tony said, no moving parts, > lower power consumption, very compact, and Compact Flash can be upgraded > offsite as needed with software updates. $19 for a 4gb compact flash these > days, and it’s much more than they will ever need.**** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:24 AM > *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software > > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Shared trunks between servers**** > > ** ** > > I'm just kinda funny about having a PC... i guess it's just me. i can > replace it in a snap, i know where to get power supplies, etc.**** > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote: > **** > > $214 buys a PFSense appliance loaded with three ports from Netgate. Works > great!**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:44 AM**** > > > *To:* [email protected]; Discussion list for users of sipXecs software > *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Shared trunks between servers**** > > **** > > No.**** > > **** > > Buy a used Dell Optiplex GX280 or something similar off eBay, slap in a > fresh drive, a second NIC and use that... $200 and you're done without > messing around.**** > > **** > > If it were me, and it's not (ha Tony)... Don't try to make stuff do what > it isn't supposed to do... you might save a couple $$ up front but you burn > tons of time and end up with something that is inherently a pain in the > caboose every time you turn around to try and do something.**** > > **** > > Mike**** > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > I'm going to go with sip trunks, thus eliminating the need for vpn. > However, I know this will come up again so have one more question. > > I would more than likely use a separate pfsense box to establish a vpn > connection between the remote sipx server, back to my main lan so that I > could give it direct access to the mediant. However, wondering if there is > any way of doing this which might eliminate having to use a separate pfsense > box in addition to the phone server. Perhaps directly on the sipx server > itself? > > So for example, something running on the remote sipx server which would > allow it to vpn to one of my pfsense servers back on the main lan, giving it > access to the mediant. Maybe OpenVPN running on sipx, something along those > lines? > > Just curious because this situation will probably come up again for us and > I'd like to know what's out there. > > Thanks.,**** > > > > > > > On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:36:04 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote:**** > > > PSTN <--PRI--> sipx-branch1 <--ISP--> > > > > || > > > > > > VPN Tunnel > > > > || > > > > > > sipxbranch2 > > > > > > it should just be a gateway just like the existing one. the only > questions > > would be adjusting the ACL to allow that IP network to use it and the > > mediant dial plan to handle the other sipdomain equally, and what numbers > > to point to which sipx server for DID. > > > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:54:11 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote: > >> either make the remote branch remote users or connect the two sites via > >> vpn > >> and add the new branch sipx server as acl ti the medians and use it as a > >> gateway. > >> > > > >> Thanks very much for the input. I have a better idea of what I am after > >> now. > >> > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2011 1:34 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> without explaining what you have now in a way other than "a really > >>>> good > >>>> LD > >>>> deal". > >>>> > >>> LD meaning that with our PRI services, we get a good long distance > deal. > >>> If possible, I'd like to use our current trunks to provide 4 lines to a > >>> remote sipx server. > >>> > >>>> How about stating how your existing gateway or trunk is implemented? > >>>> Is > >>>> it > >>>> a PRI? Is it a trunk? Is there a VPN between the two locations? > >>>> > >>> I was asking about sipx itself but see how that comes into the picture. > >>> > >>> The remote location is a small office that will need 4 trunks. > >>> If we had to, we would put a gateway there to convert analog phone > lines > >>> to SIP trunks for sipx. That however adds to the cost. > >>> > >>> At the main location, we use the mediant 2000 to provide PRI/SIP trunks > >>> to our local sipx servers. > >>> > >>> One option could be allowing the remote server to get it's trunks > >>> directly off of the mediant. > >>> Another would be to use a virtual trunk provider to get trunks into the > >>> remote. > >>> > >>> My question however, was if I could use one sipx server (at our main > >>> location) to provide the 4 trunks needed to the remote sipx server. > >>> > >>>> Without using a PRI as the gateway or having both of the servers using > >>>> the > >>>> same sipdomain, it a lot more problematic from both a security and > >>>> permissions standpoint. It also depends on the capabilities on the > >>>> ISTP > >>>> "if" it is a trunk. > >>>> > >>> We would manage the remote so it could be in the same domain. I would > >>> control both LAN's so could just allow the remote and local servers to > >>> communicate via firewall rule. > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, [email protected] <[email protected] > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Sorry if I've posted this multiple times, had some mailer problems > >>>>> and > >>>>> don't see it in the list so am reposting. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>> --- > >>>>> > >>>> I have to install a small system at a remote location. The system will > >>>> only > >>>> have about 4 trucks so makes no sense to order lines/gateway etc. > >>>> What I was wondering about is either getting SIP trunks from a > >>>> provider > >>>> or, > >>>> getting them from my main sipx box? > >>>> > >>>> I have never delved into anything like this and wondering if it is > >>>> possible > >>>> to extend trunks over to a second (or more?) sipx servers. > >>>> Should I be looking at Branches? > >>>> > >>>> The reason I would do this is because we have a good LD deal so want > >>>> to > >>>> take advantage of that rather than having to buy trunks. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> sipx-users mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> ====================== > >>>> Tony Graziano, Manager > >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430 > >>>> sip: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> Fax: 434.465.6833 > >>>> > >>>> Email: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 > >>>> sip: [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> Helpdesk Contract Customers: > >>>> http://support.myitdepartment.net > >>>> > >>>> Blog: > >>>> > >>>> http://blog.myitdepartment.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony- > >>>> graziano/14/4a6/7a4 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ask about our Internet faxservices! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> sipx-users mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > _______________________________________________ > > sipx-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > > > > -- > > ====================== > > Tony Graziano, Manager > > Telephone: 434.984.8430 > > sip: [email protected] > > Fax: 434.465.6833 > > > > Email: [email protected] > > > > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > > Telephone: 434.984.8426 > > sip: [email protected] > > > > Helpdesk Contract Customers: > > http://support.myitdepartment.net > > > > Blog: > > http://blog.myitdepartment.net > > > > > > Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 > > > > > > Ask about our Internet faxservices! > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/**** > > > > **** > > **** > > -- > Michael Picher > eZuce > Director of Technical Services > O.978-296-1005 X2015 > M.207-956-0262 > @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> > www.ezuce.com**** > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Michael Picher > eZuce > Director of Technical Services > O.978-296-1005 X2015 > M.207-956-0262 > @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> > www.ezuce.com**** > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.465.6833 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: [email protected] Helpdesk Contract Customers: http://support.myitdepartment.net <http://support.myitdepartment.net>Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 Ask about our Internet faxservices!
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