this horse is so dead.

but to beat that drum a little more... cf cards with pfsense are great, but
they don't keep stats through a reboot nor are they able to run other
packages like squid. so it's really a use case need. in all honesty, atom
based cpu's are somewhat overpowered for a cf card install of pfsense, with
the exception of the number of network cards. at the same time, I build my
own supermicro's with a 500gb hard drive and 4gb ram and 6 ethernet slots
for about the same price as this diskless. so to each their own.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jeff Gilmore <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Buy a used Dell Optiplex GX280 or something similar off eBay, slap in a
> fresh drive, a second NIC and use that...  $200 and you're done without
> messing around.
>
> Or better yet, buy a fanless 30-60 watt system like this one, preloaded
> with PFSense on a CF card:  
> <http://store.netgate.com/Netgate-FW-7535-1U-P1695C84.aspx>
> http://store.netgate.com/Netgate-FW-7535-1U-P1695C84.aspx
>
> Jeff
>
>
> If it were me, and it's not (ha Tony)...   Don't try to make stuff do what
> it isn't supposed to do...  you might save a couple $$ up front but you burn
> tons of time and end up with something that is inherently a pain in the
> caboose every time you turn around to try and do something.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, <[email protected]>[email protected] 
> <<[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to go with sip trunks, thus eliminating the need for vpn.
>> However, I know this will come up again so have one more question.
>>
>> I would more than likely use a separate pfsense box to establish a vpn
>> connection between the remote sipx server, back to my main lan so that I
>> could give it direct access to the mediant. However, wondering if there is
>> any way of doing this which might eliminate having to use a separate pfsense
>> box in addition to the phone server. Perhaps directly on the sipx server
>> itself?
>>
>> So for example, something running on the remote sipx server which would
>> allow it to vpn to one of my pfsense servers back on the main lan, giving it
>> access to the mediant. Maybe OpenVPN running on sipx, something along those
>> lines?
>>
>> Just curious because this situation will probably come up again for us and
>> I'd like to know what's out there.
>>
>> Thanks.,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:36:04 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote:
>> > PSTN <--PRI--> sipx-branch1 <--ISP-->
>> >
>> >                                                ||
>> >
>> >
>> >                                        VPN Tunnel
>> >
>> >                                                ||
>> >
>> >
>> >                                         sipxbranch2
>> >
>> >
>> > it should just be a gateway just like the existing one. the only
>> questions
>> > would be adjusting the ACL to allow that IP network to use it and the
>> > mediant dial plan to handle the other sipdomain equally, and what
>> numbers
>> > to point to which sipx server for DID.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM, <[email protected]>[email protected] 
>> > <<[email protected]>
>> [email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:54:11 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote:
>> >> either make the remote branch remote users or connect the two sites via
>> >> vpn
>> >> and add the new branch sipx server as acl ti the medians and use it as
>> a
>> >> gateway.
>> >>
>> >
>> >> Thanks very much for the input. I have a better idea of what I am after
>> >> now.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 11, 2011 1:34 PM, " <[email protected]>[email protected]" 
>> >> <<[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>> without explaining what you have now in a way other than "a really
>> >>>> good
>> >>>> LD
>> >>>> deal".
>> >>>>
>> >>> LD meaning that with our PRI services, we get a good long distance
>> deal.
>> >>> If possible, I'd like to use our current trunks to provide 4 lines to
>> a
>> >>> remote sipx server.
>> >>>
>> >>>> How about stating how your existing gateway or trunk is implemented?
>> >>>> Is
>> >>>> it
>> >>>> a PRI? Is it a trunk? Is there a VPN between the two locations?
>> >>>>
>> >>> I was asking about sipx itself but see how that comes into the
>> picture.
>> >>>
>> >>> The remote location is a small office that will need 4 trunks.
>> >>> If we had to, we would put a gateway there to convert analog phone
>> lines
>> >>> to SIP trunks for sipx. That however adds to the cost.
>> >>>
>> >>> At the main location, we use the mediant 2000 to provide PRI/SIP
>> trunks
>> >>> to our local sipx servers.
>> >>>
>> >>> One option could be allowing the remote server to get it's trunks
>> >>> directly off of the mediant.
>> >>> Another would be to use a virtual trunk provider to get trunks into
>> the
>> >>> remote.
>> >>>
>> >>> My question however, was if I could use one sipx server (at our main
>> >>> location) to provide the 4 trunks needed to the remote sipx server.
>> >>>
>> >>>> Without using a PRI as the gateway or having both of the servers
>> using
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> same sipdomain, it a lot more problematic from both a security and
>> >>>> permissions standpoint. It also depends on the capabilities on the
>> >>>> ISTP
>> >>>> "if" it is a trunk.
>> >>>>
>> >>> We would manage the remote so it could be in the same domain. I would
>> >>> control both LAN's so could just allow the remote and local servers to
>> >>> communicate via firewall rule.
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, <[email protected]>
>> [email protected] < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Sorry if I've posted this multiple times, had some mailer problems
>> >>>>> and
>> >>>>> don't see it in the list so am reposting.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> ---
>> >>>>>
>> >>>> I have to install a small system at a remote location. The system
>> will
>> >>>> only
>> >>>> have about 4 trucks so makes no sense to order lines/gateway etc.
>> >>>> What I was wondering about is either getting SIP trunks from a
>> >>>> provider
>> >>>> or,
>> >>>> getting them from my main sipx box?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have never delved into anything like this and wondering if it is
>> >>>> possible
>> >>>> to extend trunks over to a second (or more?) sipx servers.
>> >>>> Should I be looking at Branches?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The reason I would do this is because we have a good LD deal so want
>> >>>> to
>> >>>> take advantage of that rather than having to buy trunks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mike
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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