yea, i like the idea of the atom machines better than the alix ones... but that's me being a speed freak.
Not that you need that much speed to drive a typical internet connection. i think we successfully hijacked this one. On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Tony Graziano <[email protected] > wrote: > im a fan of both. though since pfsense is not a cpu hog I NEVER throw a PC > at it anymore unless I'm in a jam. > > alix devices are cheap, diskless and have low power. the smaller the office > the dumber i want the box to be. its better than a consumer device. > > i also like the small low power servers like the atom based devices. I have > one i just installed with 6 NIC's and a 2.5" sata drive with 4gb of > nanoflash. yes its more expensive than what i have laying around as parts, > but its more reliable because its new and since it uses very little power, > it pays for itself in time versus the PC approach. I can do ANYTHING pfsense > can do with it, including squid. the room runs much cooler now, thank you! > > but if you have the pc there now and need it done, do it. you can always > backup and restore the config to another device. > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I’ve grown fond of the small appliance. As Tony said, no moving parts, >> lower power consumption, very compact, and Compact Flash can be upgraded >> offsite as needed with software updates. $19 for a 4gb compact flash these >> days, and it’s much more than they will ever need.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:24 AM >> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software >> >> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Shared trunks between servers**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I'm just kinda funny about having a PC... i guess it's just me. i can >> replace it in a snap, i know where to get power supplies, etc.**** >> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> $214 buys a PFSense appliance loaded with three ports from Netgate. Works >> great!**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:44 AM**** >> >> >> *To:* [email protected]; Discussion list for users of sipXecs software >> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Shared trunks between servers**** >> >> **** >> >> No.**** >> >> **** >> >> Buy a used Dell Optiplex GX280 or something similar off eBay, slap in a >> fresh drive, a second NIC and use that... $200 and you're done without >> messing around.**** >> >> **** >> >> If it were me, and it's not (ha Tony)... Don't try to make stuff do what >> it isn't supposed to do... you might save a couple $$ up front but you burn >> tons of time and end up with something that is inherently a pain in the >> caboose every time you turn around to try and do something.**** >> >> **** >> >> Mike**** >> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:22 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> I'm going to go with sip trunks, thus eliminating the need for vpn. >> However, I know this will come up again so have one more question. >> >> I would more than likely use a separate pfsense box to establish a vpn >> connection between the remote sipx server, back to my main lan so that I >> could give it direct access to the mediant. However, wondering if there is >> any way of doing this which might eliminate having to use a separate pfsense >> box in addition to the phone server. Perhaps directly on the sipx server >> itself? >> >> So for example, something running on the remote sipx server which would >> allow it to vpn to one of my pfsense servers back on the main lan, giving it >> access to the mediant. Maybe OpenVPN running on sipx, something along those >> lines? >> >> Just curious because this situation will probably come up again for us and >> I'd like to know what's out there. >> >> Thanks.,**** >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:36:04 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote:**** >> >> > PSTN <--PRI--> sipx-branch1 <--ISP--> >> > >> > || >> > >> > >> > VPN Tunnel >> > >> > || >> > >> > >> > sipxbranch2 >> > >> > >> > it should just be a gateway just like the existing one. the only >> questions >> > would be adjusting the ACL to allow that IP network to use it and the >> > mediant dial plan to handle the other sipdomain equally, and what >> numbers >> > to point to which sipx server for DID. >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:28 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> On Sun, 11 Sep 2011 13:54:11 -0400, Tony Graziano wrote: >> >> either make the remote branch remote users or connect the two sites via >> >> vpn >> >> and add the new branch sipx server as acl ti the medians and use it as >> a >> >> gateway. >> >> >> > >> >> Thanks very much for the input. I have a better idea of what I am after >> >> now. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2011 1:34 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>>> without explaining what you have now in a way other than "a really >> >>>> good >> >>>> LD >> >>>> deal". >> >>>> >> >>> LD meaning that with our PRI services, we get a good long distance >> deal. >> >>> If possible, I'd like to use our current trunks to provide 4 lines to >> a >> >>> remote sipx server. >> >>> >> >>>> How about stating how your existing gateway or trunk is implemented? >> >>>> Is >> >>>> it >> >>>> a PRI? Is it a trunk? Is there a VPN between the two locations? >> >>>> >> >>> I was asking about sipx itself but see how that comes into the >> picture. >> >>> >> >>> The remote location is a small office that will need 4 trunks. >> >>> If we had to, we would put a gateway there to convert analog phone >> lines >> >>> to SIP trunks for sipx. That however adds to the cost. >> >>> >> >>> At the main location, we use the mediant 2000 to provide PRI/SIP >> trunks >> >>> to our local sipx servers. >> >>> >> >>> One option could be allowing the remote server to get it's trunks >> >>> directly off of the mediant. >> >>> Another would be to use a virtual trunk provider to get trunks into >> the >> >>> remote. >> >>> >> >>> My question however, was if I could use one sipx server (at our main >> >>> location) to provide the 4 trunks needed to the remote sipx server. >> >>> >> >>>> Without using a PRI as the gateway or having both of the servers >> using >> >>>> the >> >>>> same sipdomain, it a lot more problematic from both a security and >> >>>> permissions standpoint. It also depends on the capabilities on the >> >>>> ISTP >> >>>> "if" it is a trunk. >> >>>> >> >>> We would manage the remote so it could be in the same domain. I would >> >>> control both LAN's so could just allow the remote and local servers to >> >>> communicate via firewall rule. >> >>> >> >>> Mike >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:56 PM, [email protected] < >> [email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Sorry if I've posted this multiple times, had some mailer problems >> >>>>> and >> >>>>> don't see it in the list so am reposting. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> --- >> >>>>> >> >>>> I have to install a small system at a remote location. The system >> will >> >>>> only >> >>>> have about 4 trucks so makes no sense to order lines/gateway etc. >> >>>> What I was wondering about is either getting SIP trunks from a >> >>>> provider >> >>>> or, >> >>>> getting them from my main sipx box? >> >>>> >> >>>> I have never delved into anything like this and wondering if it is >> >>>> possible >> >>>> to extend trunks over to a second (or more?) sipx servers. >> >>>> Should I be looking at Branches? >> >>>> >> >>>> The reason I would do this is because we have a good LD deal so want >> >>>> to >> >>>> take advantage of that rather than having to buy trunks. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks. >> >>>> >> >>>> Mike >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> sipx-users mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> ====================== >> >>>> Tony Graziano, Manager >> >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8430 >> >>>> sip: [email protected] >> >>>> >> >>>> Fax: 434.465.6833 >> >>>> >> >>>> Email: [email protected] >> >>>> >> >>>> LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >> >>>> Telephone: 434.984.8426 >> >>>> sip: [email protected] >> >>>> >> >>>> Helpdesk Contract Customers: >> >>>> http://support.myitdepartment.net >> >>>> >> >>>> Blog: >> >>>> >> >>>> http://blog.myitdepartment.net >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony- >> >>>> graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Ask about our Internet faxservices! >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> sipx-users mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > sipx-users mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ====================== >> > Tony Graziano, Manager >> > Telephone: 434.984.8430 >> > sip: [email protected] >> > Fax: 434.465.6833 >> > >> > Email: [email protected] >> > >> > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: >> > Telephone: 434.984.8426 >> > sip: [email protected] >> > >> > Helpdesk Contract Customers: >> > http://support.myitdepartment.net >> > >> > Blog: >> > http://blog.myitdepartment.net >> > >> > >> > Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 >> > >> > >> > Ask about our Internet faxservices! >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> -- >> Michael Picher >> eZuce >> Director of Technical Services >> O.978-296-1005 X2015 >> M.207-956-0262 >> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> >> www.ezuce.com**** >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/**** >> >> >> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Michael Picher >> eZuce >> Director of Technical Services >> O.978-296-1005 X2015 >> M.207-956-0262 >> @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> >> www.ezuce.com**** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sipx-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ >> > > > > -- > ====================== > Tony Graziano, Manager > Telephone: 434.984.8430 > sip: [email protected] > Fax: 434.465.6833 > > Email: [email protected] > > LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: > Telephone: 434.984.8426 > sip: [email protected] > > Helpdesk Contract Customers: > http://support.myitdepartment.net > > <http://support.myitdepartment.net>Blog: > http://blog.myitdepartment.net > > Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 > > Ask about our Internet faxservices! > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- Michael Picher eZuce Director of Technical Services O.978-296-1005 X2015 M.207-956-0262 @mpicher <http://twitter.com/mpicher> www.ezuce.com
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