easier for you to say first in your timezone! On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Joegen Baclor <[email protected]> wrote:
> Happy 2012 everyone! > > > On 12/30/2011 11:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > +1 > > > I think everyone has made their point and it is time to move on. > > > > Thanks to all who contributed to the project in 2011. Hopefully we can > > expand that list in 2012 and make this an even better project! > > > > Sincerely, > > Dave Deutschman > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of > > [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 7:22 AM > > To: sipx-users > > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication > > > > On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:37:37 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote: > > > Mike, contrary to what you say here, I specifically am not sure what a > > > VPRI is, and yes, after your sigh response, I Googled it and tried to > > > find a definition of what it was exactly. > > > > As I already said, it is not a term being used, I just figured it would > not > > drop into all this nonsense to use it and that the pros in this list > would > > easily know what I'm talking about. > > > > > With a telco background, PRI is very specific to me. VPRI could be > > > one of many things, and I really was asking what it was in the frame > > > of your questions. It wasn't meant to be condescending, and if it > was, I > > apologize. > > > > Of course there are condescending attitudes on this list, it's been here > for > > the many years I've been on it and it's usually from the same people. > Then > > those same people defend themselves saying how there is no such behavior. > > But of course, the same folks who jump into the stupid thread are long > time > > members who never suffer that crap so how would you know how it feels. > You > > then call it ribbing each other, bullshit. I'd much prefer NEVER getting > a > > reply to my questions unless they came without the condescending > attitudes. > > > > The only defense some can make is 'sometimes it hurts'??? Give me a > break, > > learning is difficult at times but it certainly should not come with > being > > insulted. Practically every time I post something, replies come from the > > same people and always with the same condescending tones explaining how I > > used the wrong term or didn't provide enough information, etc etc. I've > said > > countless times, this is not my day job like it is most of you here. I > can > > figure most things out and sometimes comes a situation where I either > have a > > problem or sure could use some input from the pros who are doing this > full > > time. Asking a question here is like throwing the dice, it's a chance of > not > > asking a question correctly and being insulted for it. > > > > > VPRI has nothing to do with me, and apparently is not something that > > > anyone knows anything about, except the company marketing with that > > > name, so I will not respond further on this thread. > > > > Of course you know what a VPRI is, almost anyone reading this thread > will. > > And those that aren't into the head games will simply ask 'can you tell > me > > what a vpri means, does it mean a virtual pri perhaps' and walk away > > learning something. There is no need to be anal in a mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of > > > [email protected] > > > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 8:13 PM > > > To: sipx-users > > > Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication > > > > > >> Sigh what? Mike, read about PRI - > > >> > > > Sigh... because you took the time to agree with Tony, giving me grief > > > while at the same time pointing out that you were not doing that. Of > > > course you were. Since Tony had already made his point, why did you > > > need to bring it up again? > > > > > > You then post a separate reply to the original question when just > > > before that, you told me you didn't know what I was talking about. > > > > > > Sigh because as soon as I point out the obvious such as I am now > > > having to do, a few of you must at all costs have fun with this, > > > turning the persons post into garbage making points like 'we need to > > > understand'. Does someone else feel the need still? > > > > > > Of course you know what I was asking about, I've seen plenty of people > > > talking about virtual PRI's. Who the heck would not know that a VPRI > > > might simply be an abbreviation. Doesn't seem to be at the moment but > > > give it time maybe :). > > > > > > Bottom line is that there are a few old timers on this list that seem > > > to feel the need to be hard nosed to people. Why? Maybe a few of the > > > users are simply too freaking serious for no good reason. Give it a > > > rest. There is no reason to be like that with ANYONE on this list. > > > No one makes you reply to anything, you don't have to. If you don't > > > like how someone posts something, it's not your place to be the > > > teacher or know it all and tell them how they need to learn everything > > > about VoIP before ever taking the chance of using the wrong term while > > > asking a question. God forbid! > > > > > >> That's all I'm saying, and I think that is what Tony was asking - > > >> what is it exactly. > > >> > > > A virtual PRI is really just a billing method for a SIP trunk. Figured > > > pretty much anyone on this list would know that. > > > The question really was, how do I set up sipx so that I can use IP > > > authentication to the ITSP over user/password. > > > > > > Anyways, moving on... > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] > > >> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of > > >> [email protected] > > >> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 7:08 PM > > >> To: sipx-users > > >> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication > > >> > > >> <sigh> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:55:11 -0800, Todd Hodgen wrote: > > >>> Yes, but what is a virtual PRI? Since PRI is an ISDN standard, > what is > > >> the > > >>> non-standard derivative that comes out of a Virtual PRI? What is it > > >>> exactly? > > >>> > > >>> Is it maybe a PRI that is fed out of device that is actually fed via > > >>> a > > >>> T1 > > >>> with SIP trunks on it? If it is, its still a PRI, conforming to the > > >>> PRI > > >>> standards, as it should. > > >>> > > >>> I believe what you are referring to is some companies marketing name > > >>> they use for a service they provide. I don't think anyone is giving > > >>> you grief, we just have no idea what you are talking about since we > > >>> haven't had the pleasure of reading the material you have, and > > >>> really haven't a clue what this VPRI is. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: [email protected] > > >>> [mailto:[email protected]<[email protected]>] > On Behalf Of > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 3:02 PM > > >>> To: sipx-users > > >>> Subject: Re: [sipx-users] flowroute VPRI IP authentication > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:20:57 -0500, Tony Graziano wrote: > > >>>> I dont know VPRI means. If you use terms noone but you might > > >>>> understand you might explain it a bit. Throwing that aside... > > >>>> > > >>> When I don't use the right terms, I get grief and when I use the > > >>> terms I'm seeing in docs, I still get grief :). > > >>> I would have called it Virtual PRI but flowroute itself seems to > > >>> call it VPRI for short. > > >>> > > >>>> flowroute is a two-edged sword: Use the bandwidth.com template and > > >>>> change the bandwidth.com gateway stuff to your flowroute gateway. > > >>>> make sure flowroute is swet to send to your ip address and port > 5080. > > >>>> Very > > >>> simple. > > >>> > > >>> I'll take a look at this. > > >>> > > >>>> If you use dual wan with flowroute you may have issues if you route > > >>>> netblocks or providers via specific wan ports. > > >>>> > > >>> Flowroute will be the only gateway these sipx servers will know and > > >>> have. > > >>> > > >>>> flowroute does not control > > >>>> the majority of their network and hence, RTP does not come from the > > >>>> same IP as the gateway. You pretty much have to open everything to > > >>>> use flowroute if you had been in locked down mode. > > >>>> > > >>> I didn't know this about them and to date, have always used an IP > > >>> allow rule for them. > > >>> Guess I've been lucky, haven't heard of any missed calls. > > >>> > > >>> These servers won't have any remote users but I wanted to have a bit > > >>> of security in place so figured I would block all but > > >>> sip.flowroute.com. Now I seem to have a new problem. > > >>> > > >>> Mike > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:10 PM, [email protected] > > >>>> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> I need to install 4 separate sipx systems in four separate > > >>>>> locations. > > >>>>> No interoffice communications. > > >>>> All of the sipx systems could benefit from the use of a VPRI rather > > >>>> than traditional. > > >>>> > > >>>> I use ITSP's for individual lines when we need an area code that > > >>>> our local telco cannot handle. > > >>>> On sipx, I usually just create an ITSP device in the gateway > > >>>> section and let it authenticate via user name/password. > > >>>> > > >>>> In this case, due to the number of lines per server (4 to 8), it > > >>>> doesn't seem like a good idea to authenticate each and every DID > > >>>> individually for example and would prefer using an IP based > > >>>> authentication for the whole server. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> I'll be using flowroute for the systems but am not sure how to > > >>>>> configure sipx to authenticate once based on IP over a user > > >>>>> name/password. I don't see anything which would allow me to do > > >>>>> this in the Gateway configuration section. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Can someone shed some light on this please. > > >>>>> > > >>>> Thanks very much. > > >>>> > > >>>> Mike > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> sipx-users mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> sipx-users mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> sipx-users mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sipx-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > _______________________________________________ > > sipx-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4711 - Release Date: 12/29/11 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sipx-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > sipx-users mailing list > [email protected] > List Archive: http://list.sipfoundry.org/archive/sipx-users/ > -- ====================== Tony Graziano, Manager Telephone: 434.984.8430 sip: [email protected] Fax: 434.465.6833 Email: [email protected] LAN/Telephony/Security and Control Systems Helpdesk: Telephone: 434.984.8426 sip: [email protected] Helpdesk Customers: http://myhelp.myitdepartment.net Blog: http://blog.myitdepartment.net Linked-In Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tony-graziano/14/4a6/7a4 Ask about our Internet Fax services!
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