On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:25 AM, IT Manager <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Dave and Tony,****
>
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> Thanks for the info – we are configured against the AD integrated domain –
> so changing this environment is going to be difficult (to put it mildly!).
> ****
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> However, I haven’t rolled out the SIPx server yet to users – but I have
> created the profiles/users/config etc. ****
>
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> If I am going to rebuild the Sip server is it easiest to do this as
> follows?****
>
> **·         **Reinstall from scratch the SIP Server – allow it to have
> its own DNS Server
>
Yes

> ****
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> **·         **Give it a sub-domain of sip.mydomain.org with server name
> sipx.sip.mydomain.org and point it’s DNS resolution to our ISP DNS
>
OK

> ****
>
> **·         **Upload my backup from the previous install (or will this
> overwrite the domain settings etc) – or just bite the bullet and reprogram
> from scratch – it is always easier second time round… J
>
No. Do an export and edit it to remove the superadmin user and manually
edit the PIN for the users then import it.

> ****
>
> **·         **When provisioning phones – give them the dns of the SIPX
> server – not my AD one ****
>
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> Is this my path to success, wealth, prosperity etc…?****
>
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> My firewall is an IPFire one which I believe runs dnsmasq (although my AD
> hands out DHCP). It may be that I have to rethink my DHCP strategy as well
> as my AD one.
>
Your windows dhcpd can hand out the DNS server for ALL devices as the
firewall. Just tell the firewall to resolve sip.mydomain.org to the IP
address of the sipx server.

> ****
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> Laurie****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Black, Dave
> (CallPoint Canada)
> *Sent:* 17 March 2012 00:27
>
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>
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> As Tony advised, you would probably be best served by separating your
> SipXecs voice domain from AD in the long run, however this doesn’t help you
> out right now unless you are prepared to rebuild either SipXecs or AD
> environments.  ****
>
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>
> Given that your AD domain controller role and DNS role are residing on the
> same windows machine, and assuming DNS is AD integrated, would be the root
> cause of your start up issues, coupled with SipXecs being configured so
> that it is dependent on AD DNS instead of its own. ****
>
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>
> I know this is getting out of the realm of this list, but if SipXecs
> systems are being configured against Windows AD DNS, then a pointer in a
> windows direction won’t hurt..  If a secondary DNS server hosting the AD
> zone is unavailable during a windows domain controller boot, which would be
> the case because of power failure, then AD will crawl at starting up.
>  There are a few ways to solve this problem, (assuming your AD forest is in
> good shape), probably the easiest way is to switch your AD integrated DNS
> zone to a standard zone instead of AD integrated.  You will lose some of
> the security and replication features which is why most people run a AD
> integrated DNS zone, but your choices are limited given there isn’t a
> secondary site with AD DNS available during boot, other common solutions
> include running a replicated AD domain controller with DNS integrated in a
> secondary site that would remain up during power failures.****
>
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> Hope this helps.****
>
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>
> Dave Black ****
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> *From:* [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony
> Graziano
> *Sent:* March-15-12 6:08 AM
> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>
> ** **
>
> If you had installed sipx on its own domain (preferably subdomain) it can
> have its own DNS and not be involved with that of your AD domain.****
>
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> In your case, I think I would have done this AND made sipx the primary DNS
> server for your office by adding a forward zone for your AD domain. I
> prefer to do this at the firewall, because then the phone look to the
> firewall for DNS and forward everything OUT execept the AD domain (goes
> directly to windows server) and the sipx subdomain (goes directly to sipx
> server).****
>
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>
> What are the capabilities of the firewall you have there?****
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:35 AM, IT Manager <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> Hi Todd,****
>
> Thanks – we do have an inverter system for the whole office that I am
> trying to get to shutdown things in an orderly fashion – however it hasn’t
> been happening as yet. In the meantime I have tried to set the startup
> delay for the sipx server to be way after the booting of the AD controller
> (DNS machine), but that I am already at 5 minutes delay and it’s still not
> working.****
>
> Should I try to reconfigure the SIPX server to do it’s own DNS and have
> the phones ignore the AD DNS entirely? Would this fix the issue?****
>
> Also, I am still learning my way around linux/sipx and so finding logs if
> it’s not in the WebUI could be a problem – can you point me where to look
> and what to look for?****
>
> Laurie****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hodgen
> *Sent:* 15 March 2012 09:21
> *To:* 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software'
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>
>  ****
>
> Have you considered a UPS product that has orderly shutdown capability?
> There are some that will do controlled shutdown and startup of select
> devices and in your selected order.  You could have it turn up your DNS
> services first, with sipXecs system coming back online after a selected
> timeframe, then followed by your POE switches that feed phones.****
>
>  ****
>
> A detailed review of the logs after a power failure should help understand
> what is failing.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *IT Manager
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:10 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>
>  ****
>
> Dear All,****
>
>  ****
>
> I am struggling with something and am not sure of the method to fix it. **
> **
>
>  ****
>
> Bit of background first: We are in Africa and so the power situation here
> is not great – we do have battery backup power, but it doesn’t last long
> enough to keep systems running throughout the night. So basically every
> time the backup fails, everything crashes. Then when power is restored all
> the servers boot up again and most things start up ok. This brings me to
> the problem I am having with SIPX.****
>
>  ****
>
> It starts up fine and looking at the services it seems that everything is
> running OK. However, none of the phones (GXP2000) or soft phone (Xlite)
> will register with the system. If I restart all the services then things go
> back to normal and the registrations work just fine.****
>
>  ****
>
> I *think* that the problem lies with the DNS: Because my AD DNS servers
> take quite a while to start up, I think that the SIPX server starts faster
> than them. In some way this causes something to fail in the SIP server.
> What exactly that is I don’t know and am not sure where to look.****
>
>  ****
>
> Any thoughts as to where to look or possible solutions to the situation?**
> **
>
>  ****
>
> Laurie****
>
>  ****
>
> PS this is one of the reasons I can’t roll it out to the office yet - if I
> have to manually reset it every time power returns.****
>
>  ****
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> Laurie Nason****
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> IT Manager****
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