realize gateways, recordings and AA settings and such will be lost. This
will only culminate in having:

users, phones, user and phone groups, pin's, sip passwords and associated
data. However, sending profiles to phones gets you a long way if you are
not in production yet.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Tony Graziano <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:25 AM, IT Manager <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave and Tony,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks for the info – we are configured against the AD integrated domain
>> – so changing this environment is going to be difficult (to put it mildly!).
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> However, I haven’t rolled out the SIPx server yet to users – but I have
>> created the profiles/users/config etc. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If I am going to rebuild the Sip server is it easiest to do this as
>> follows?****
>>
>> **·         **Reinstall from scratch the SIP Server – allow it to have
>> its own DNS Server
>>
> Yes
>
>> ****
>>
>> **·         **Give it a sub-domain of sip.mydomain.org with server name
>> sipx.sip.mydomain.org and point it’s DNS resolution to our ISP DNS
>>
> OK
>
>> ****
>>
>> **·         **Upload my backup from the previous install (or will this
>> overwrite the domain settings etc) – or just bite the bullet and reprogram
>> from scratch – it is always easier second time round… J
>>
> No. Do an export and edit it to remove the superadmin user and manually
> edit the PIN for the users then import it.
>
>> ****
>>
>> **·         **When provisioning phones – give them the dns of the SIPX
>> server – not my AD one ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Is this my path to success, wealth, prosperity etc…?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My firewall is an IPFire one which I believe runs dnsmasq (although my AD
>> hands out DHCP). It may be that I have to rethink my DHCP strategy as well
>> as my AD one.
>>
> Your windows dhcpd can hand out the DNS server for ALL devices as the
> firewall. Just tell the firewall to resolve sip.mydomain.org to the IP
> address of the sipx server.
>
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Laurie****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Black, Dave
>> (CallPoint Canada)
>> *Sent:* 17 March 2012 00:27
>>
>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> As Tony advised, you would probably be best served by separating your
>> SipXecs voice domain from AD in the long run, however this doesn’t help you
>> out right now unless you are prepared to rebuild either SipXecs or AD
>> environments.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Given that your AD domain controller role and DNS role are residing on
>> the same windows machine, and assuming DNS is AD integrated, would be the
>> root cause of your start up issues, coupled with SipXecs being configured
>> so that it is dependent on AD DNS instead of its own. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I know this is getting out of the realm of this list, but if SipXecs
>> systems are being configured against Windows AD DNS, then a pointer in a
>> windows direction won’t hurt..  If a secondary DNS server hosting the AD
>> zone is unavailable during a windows domain controller boot, which would be
>> the case because of power failure, then AD will crawl at starting up.
>>  There are a few ways to solve this problem, (assuming your AD forest is in
>> good shape), probably the easiest way is to switch your AD integrated DNS
>> zone to a standard zone instead of AD integrated.  You will lose some of
>> the security and replication features which is why most people run a AD
>> integrated DNS zone, but your choices are limited given there isn’t a
>> secondary site with AD DNS available during boot, other common solutions
>> include running a replicated AD domain controller with DNS integrated in a
>> secondary site that would remain up during power failures.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hope this helps.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dave Black ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tony
>> Graziano
>> *Sent:* March-15-12 6:08 AM
>> *To:* Discussion list for users of sipXecs software
>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If you had installed sipx on its own domain (preferably subdomain) it can
>> have its own DNS and not be involved with that of your AD domain.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> In your case, I think I would have done this AND made sipx the primary
>> DNS server for your office by adding a forward zone for your AD domain. I
>> prefer to do this at the firewall, because then the phone look to the
>> firewall for DNS and forward everything OUT execept the AD domain (goes
>> directly to windows server) and the sipx subdomain (goes directly to sipx
>> server).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> What are the capabilities of the firewall you have there?****
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:35 AM, IT Manager <[email protected]>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Hi Todd,****
>>
>> Thanks – we do have an inverter system for the whole office that I am
>> trying to get to shutdown things in an orderly fashion – however it hasn’t
>> been happening as yet. In the meantime I have tried to set the startup
>> delay for the sipx server to be way after the booting of the AD controller
>> (DNS machine), but that I am already at 5 minutes delay and it’s still not
>> working.****
>>
>> Should I try to reconfigure the SIPX server to do it’s own DNS and have
>> the phones ignore the AD DNS entirely? Would this fix the issue?****
>>
>> Also, I am still learning my way around linux/sipx and so finding logs if
>> it’s not in the WebUI could be a problem – can you point me where to look
>> and what to look for?****
>>
>> Laurie****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Todd Hodgen
>> *Sent:* 15 March 2012 09:21
>> *To:* 'Discussion list for users of sipXecs software'
>> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Have you considered a UPS product that has orderly shutdown capability?
>> There are some that will do controlled shutdown and startup of select
>> devices and in your selected order.  You could have it turn up your DNS
>> services first, with sipXecs system coming back online after a selected
>> timeframe, then followed by your POE switches that feed phones.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> A detailed review of the logs after a power failure should help
>> understand what is failing.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *IT Manager
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:10 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [sipx-users] Sipxservices****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Dear All,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I am struggling with something and am not sure of the method to fix it. *
>> ***
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Bit of background first: We are in Africa and so the power situation here
>> is not great – we do have battery backup power, but it doesn’t last long
>> enough to keep systems running throughout the night. So basically every
>> time the backup fails, everything crashes. Then when power is restored all
>> the servers boot up again and most things start up ok. This brings me to
>> the problem I am having with SIPX.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> It starts up fine and looking at the services it seems that everything is
>> running OK. However, none of the phones (GXP2000) or soft phone (Xlite)
>> will register with the system. If I restart all the services then things go
>> back to normal and the registrations work just fine.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I *think* that the problem lies with the DNS: Because my AD DNS servers
>> take quite a while to start up, I think that the SIPX server starts faster
>> than them. In some way this causes something to fail in the SIP server.
>> What exactly that is I don’t know and am not sure where to look.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Any thoughts as to where to look or possible solutions to the situation?*
>> ***
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Laurie****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> PS this is one of the reasons I can’t roll it out to the office yet - if
>> I have to manually reset it every time power returns.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>>  ****
>>
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>>
>> Laurie Nason****
>>
>> IT Manager****
>>
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>>
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>>
>>  ****
>>
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