Tom~ I will doubtless go down in history as a doubting Thomas, a hard-headed Old Man, or just a plain old horse's ass but it just ain't there for me! I have had many trusted friends over the years although due to my present state of both mind and political determination they have fallen like leaves off a dying tree! Almost every agreement made with these trusted ones over the years which faltered ran into difficulty only because there was either an initial lack of understanding or misunderstanding from lack of input. Sometimes there was rather important stakes at issue but only seldom earth shakers. The earth shakers usually involved concern which could be remedied without lasting consequences but it seems the worst disasters involved a matter of misguided intent. Aside from the institution for the blind called love and marriage, I never suffered catastrophically. The reason the losses were held to a minimum is because the bulk of the people were both trusted AND were fully informed! Every time there was even the slightest deceit or incomplete or missing facts involved, both the level of calamity as well as poor relationships rose proportionately! I learned more and more along the way it was better to suffer known losses which could be handled or minimized up front than to have both the elements of inconvenient timing as well as conflagration caused by the unexpected to contend with! Now I must say here, many of the relationships did involve considerable values as I have had a very active and ambitious life and am a builder, commercial pilot, electronics tech, etc, etc., in other words, no namby-pamby life! I have been involved in politics and have far too much time spent in court and court environments. As a young learner, I served as a justice on the Cadet Honor Court in the air farce, and that was quite a learning experience. That military experience lingers yet enough to find application here, for never have I been more mislead, deceived, and exposed to conniving corps of people than there! I am well apprised that environment has only gotten worse. I hear every word you say and I begrudge you – or those of similar mindset -- absolutely not! I would discourage you but not belittle your efforts and/or intent. We are not nearing anything! We are currently in the hard press of damnable pincers in the hands of Devils! As for replacing De Facto agents with De Jure, please keep in mind the sound defining of the De jure: ”Recognized authority given to legitimate governance of live people loaned that authority by consent of the live governed, within definite parameters of the office to be occupied”! As I mentioned before, there CAN BE NO – NONE – ZERO mysterious aspects to the desires, goals, intentions and deepest reaches of that sought to be accomplished. It is true, as history shows from the fate of so many of that original 56, there is great danger in these matters for all who carry high the torches and banners for they shall become the immediate concentrated targets of the Satanic. In spite of some apparent dangers, absolute truth and intentions may not be casually or hesitantly cast slowly like the lackadaisical sprinkling of petals upon a fast moving stream – for me this is a matter of up front with it all. Otherwise I shall be sure I am subjected to both the unknown itself as well as the unknowing about me as my collateral support. This is certain for they must have nebulous causes – causes themselves which are impossible to identify as there is no unified awareness possible within them of cause, dedication, means, and commitment of abilities to perform or to be performed! I will ask you to consider the possibilities that the likes of such as I am well aware both of what’s going on around us and ALL the possible ramifications. Again, not to cast aspersions your way, but I can double your money back guarantee in a scenario such as is before us, this blind alley approach made either in desperation or any other ill founded cause, is going to attract a plethora of nit wits and folks of very shallow dedication to a cause they can’t even themselves describe! Tom, I think what you are looking at right in the face is the greatest possible potential for organized chaos with a minimum of emphasis on “organized”! At ground level, where little seems to be falling about us other than “acid snow”, this feels to me just like a hurried attempt by some to “CYA” and “Y” means them, not me! ~Hal~
--- On Thu, 2/25/10, tom <[email protected]> wrote: From: tom <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Fw: TTC - Tim's Position To: "hal" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 5:01 PM Hi Hal. I certainly can see how you are con cerned about the content of the Declaration. I was sent 3 pages, MOL, that gave the intentions of the entire declaration. I was in attendance at the Arizona Republic Assembly on 19 Feb. and listened to what Tim had to say there. The reason given for the secrecy of the contents is to not tell the whole plan in its particulars, as the banksters could possibly counter those particulars and thwart the plan. I'm almost certain you are aware of the scheme to foist the fed & income tax on our parents/grandparents in 1913. The banksters involved didn't even use their real names when boarding the private train car that took them to Jekyll Island. The gist what I took away from the assembly meeting and everything Tim & Sam (with others) have said is that the Declaration is an empowering document for the grand juries and accompanying military officers, and instructs the office-holders on the defacto-going-dejure offices what to order their subordinates to effect the plan. Apparently, the state coordinators will read the document to the signers at the time of signing. Not the best arrangement, for sure, but it beats the alternative we face if we allow the corporation and its CEO to proceed with the Illuminati plan to enslave the entire planet. What Tim said last night may be overstated or alarmist, but I'd rather err on the side of safety rather than assume the clampdown is not imminent. If the Constition OF is abrogated by treaty, well, we will totally enslaved and have no in-law recourse, never mind the CEO was not qualified to hold the office (his straw man was "born" in Hawaii), or it is treason against the people (chattel) or the Republic (vacant and inoperative). I really believe that if Tim's assessment of the precariosness of our current situation is correct, then we have no other option. IOW, now or never. While I'm concerned about the lack of my being able to read the entire document, I have watched Tim for about a year and have listened to Sam for a little longer. I do not believe either of them are false. Sam has high regard for the other two Guardian Elders (a better name would have been nice), so because Tim trusts Sam and Sam trusts Tom & Regan... well, I'd rather have met the other 3 myself, but that is not possible. So, my concern is somewhat mitigated because I see what Tim is doing and now have met him in person. He does not strike me as a man who is easily decieved or ready to rush half-cocked into something with this much at risk. One person told me Obama came into office at the Father's will to possibly cause the American people to wake up, and it appears that is happening. In a matter of a month or two we shall see whether America can be possibly spared severe judgement. The people are being given a chance to stand for righteosness or complacently stand by and let evil prevail. Scripture comes to mind about the restoration of Israel (read-the elect of Yahuah, not the current zionist state on Eretz-Israel) that is in many of the prophets. Specifically, Isaiah 58 comes to mind and these so-called Guardian Elders seem to be fulfilling that. The Spirit made clear to me many years ago the "Synagogue of Satan" in Rev. 3 is those behind the bankster cartel. Later research into the 33rd degree and Illuminists has proved that to be the case. As that Synagogue has openly stated on the Georgia Guidestones, they plan to eliminate 90% of those made in the image of Eloah. Hmmm, sounds like something the adversary of Eloah would do. The brother that said it was the Father's plan to allow Obama into office is a born-again jew who is attentive to the Spirit, and he also told he he sensed in his spirit something big was brewing. I could go on and on, but must close and get back to work. Welcome a phone call from you, I lost your number. 719 213 7238. Tom On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 10:43:30 -0800 (PST) hal <[email protected]> wrote: > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: TTC - Tim's Position > To: [email protected] > Date: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 6:23 AM > > > > > Dear TTC Alumni and Associated Friends and souls :), > > On Sunday I sent out the information for a "Court"-subject seminar that will > be given by a man named Mike Di Cosola of Chicago in a week from now in > southern California. > > Since I've had a multitude of emails asking about Mike and the subject matter > (who is he, what knowledge and experience does he have, does Tim endorse, > support, recommend this, where does he come from, etc., etc.), AND HERE IS > WHERE YOU WILL FIND ME! NOT ANTAGONISTIC ABOUT ANY ISSUES OR IDENTITIES BUT > AS LOUIS CARROL PUT IT, "CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER"! I HEAR THAT LAST NIGHT TIM > RANTED ON ABOUT HIS "ENDORSEMENTS AND ASSOCIATIONS" BUT I COULD NOT GET > HOOKED UP SOON ENOUGH AND HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR THE RECORDING -- > BUT I WILL! READ ON DOWN\|/ > I need to use this "send to all" message because of my time restraint (need > to be on a plane in a few hours!!! - I'm cuttin' it short!). > > This email list that you are on via me, and which is in Tim's name, is in > support of him and his program that he's brought forth to all of > us. Sometimes with Tim's permission I've been able to present "advertising" > if you will, to some related endeavors, and in this case it's to be known, as > it was in January with Mike's first seminar in Chicago, that Tim does not > "endorse" this seminar, can't give an opinion-recommendation, etc., because > he's never been in attendance, nor does he have first-hand knowledge of what > Mike is teaching other than the subject matter of the "Inns and Outs of > Court" - (a play on words for the Inns of Court in London, England......can't > believe it's been 25 years already since I combed the streets in that area of > London, went on a "London Walk," went to the powdery wig maker's shop, heard > about Margaret Thatcher and her years there, and learned about Barristers vs. > Soliciters, plus Esquires, contrary to our attorneys > and lawyers). > > This week within his extremely busy schedule Tim has been selfless in giving > Mike some hours of time to help explain the law behind the Declaration that > most of us have heard about and possibly read and support. I CANNOT HELP BUT > WONDER WHY SUCH "HELP" HAS NOT BEEN FORTHCOMING IN SOME PUBLIC FORMAT READILY > AVAILABLE TO THE STREETWISE BUMBLING FOOL LIKE ME WHO APPARENTLY JUST HASN'T > RATED A GOOD, SOUND EXPLANATION OF ALL THAT CONSISTS OF THE "PROGRAM" WHICH > DEMANDS ATTENTION AND AWARENESS ONLY OF THOSE WHOM I AM ADVISED MUST BE > REGARDED AS "MY ELDERS". I AM IMMEDIATELY REMINDED IN ALL THIS OF THE INTENSE > SECRECY OF THE "PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION", IT BEING THE LAST > SEMBLANCE OF ORDER I PERSONALLY WOULD WISH TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH! THE > ELEMENTS OF MYSTERY ARE REMARKABLY THE SAME WITH THE SAME OR SIMILAR > DELIENATIONS OF WHO IS AND WHO IS NOT "WORTHY". NOW I AM SURE THERE IS MUCH I > AM NOT WORTHY OF BUT I WILL NOT BE DENIED THAT THOSE > PRINCIPLES OF THE Unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of >America IS SOMETHING I AM FULLY WORTHY OF AS BOTH QUALIFIED AND CAPABLE OF >FULLY UNDERSTANDING AND UTILIZING. NONETHELESS, I HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO BELIEVE >THE PROGRAM TIM IS INVOLVED IN IS SOME SORT OF AN UPDATE OF THAT TREASURED >AD1776 CREATION. NOT ONLY MUST I QUESTION ANY NEED OR DESIRE TO "UPDATE" THAT >PLAN, I MUST REBUKE EVEN THE INSINUATION OF IT! I AM AN -- OF LONG STANDING >-- "TIM BOOSTER" AND THAT IS NOW FOR SOME BEGINNING TO BRING ME INTO SOME >QUESTION BECAUSE THE AIRE OF MYSTERY SHROUDING THE GOINGS ON OF FOUR >INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THREE HUNDRED MILLIION, CARRIES TREMENDOUS VOLUME THOUGH >WITHOUT EITHER RHYME OR REASON. I LIKE THAT NO MORE THAN MUCH OF WHAT TODAY IS >PASSED OFF AS "MUSIC"!And even though Tim supports free enterprise (people who >set up shop to promote "doing" your docs for you [not recommended], people who >have created private online public recording sites > [none endorsed by Tim], etc.), he just wants the message to be clear >regarding his name and association with programs that while several of these >kinds of opportunities have been advertised via this email avenue, it is up to >you to do your own due diligence to check out the offerings of all >opportunities to the best of your ability before you put your money and time >down, OF COURSE I JUST HAVE TO AGREE WITH THIS! WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN NICE FOR >OUR ONLY WELL KNOWN AND TRUSTED MEMBER OF THIS MAGNIFICENT AND THREE QUARTERS >UNKNOWN, UNDOCUMENTED, OR UNATTRIBUTED QUARTET, TO HAVE PASSED ALONG HIS DUE >DILLIGENCE RESULTS? I JUST AM HAVING A HARD TIME BEING LEFT IN THE DARK AND >INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO GET SOUND ANSWERS MERELY BEING CONFRONTED WITH THAT >SAME OLD WE/THEY APARTHED SO DETRIMENTAL AND SECRETIVE WHICH SO MANY OF US NOW >VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE! to determine whether it will be of benefit to you or not. >SO HERE I STAND IN APPREHENSION THAT I AM DENIED > OF FUNDAMENTAL AND CRITICAL INFORMATION! I AM NOT INTERESTED IN FLAG WAVING >FOR A NEW YORK SECOND AND I DO NOT WISH TO BE LED TO THE TRUTH, JUST >ACCOMPANIED THERE! TEA PARTY PEOPLE MOMENTUM WILL FALL FLAT ON ITS FACE!! >KNOWLEDGE BASED CONCERTED EFFORT IN CONCERT IS THE ONLY REMEDIAL MOVE WHICH >WILL BOTH WITHSTAND AND ENDURE! CURRENT OPERATIONS HAVE EVERY CHARACTERISTIC >OF THE ORIGINAL PHONY "DELEGATES TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION" OF AD1787. >A GROUNDSWELL NOT BEGINNING AT THE GROUND WILL NEVER "TRICKLE DOWN" TO BECOME >ROOTED "OF THE GOOD PEOPLE"! PEOPLE REALLY DO HATE THE LESSONS OF HISTORY -- >EVEN THEIR OWN. ~HAL~ > > During the 5 years that Tim studied the formation and foundations of creating > law, what the different centuries and civilizations of law were predicated > upon (Grecian, Roman, merchant and shipping laws of Rhodes and the ancient > days, hauling the Cedars of Lebanon elsewhere while depositing the actual > gold and metals with money exchangers in the Bible and sailing out with > Letters of Credit, and so on and so forth), he brought forth out of the > (probably) dusty (if like some gorgeous old golden and weathered 4" volumes > from the 1800s in Creighton Law Library where I snoop around), the process of > using a Negative Averment. He likes simple, but extremely powerful methods > of "battle," so to speak, but it's non-controversial. It's the best stealth > movement one could have in his arsenal. And it's the easiest process for all > of us to learn and to use. The NA does the trick . . . . . no argument, no > conflict, it exhausts your administrative remedies, and > you come out the victor. It's that silent revolution in your favor. Work >on learning this from Tim . . . backwards and forwards. And Praise the Lord >for him!! > > Check out all the seminars and info following my sign-off name, and we > appreciate all you do to help promote this knowledge for people's lives. > > > > Blessings, > > > > > > > > > Donna :) > > > > 402-596-1612 (central time till midnight - by Omaha) > turnerclass.blogspot.com - Document support, how to, instructions, Q&A (by > Donna w/Tim's support) > > > SEMINARS by: > (Tim - Blue) (Donna - Rust) All are BASICS unless noted "Enforcement." > February 27-28 - Southbend, INDIANA*** > March 6-7 - ATLANTA, GEORGIA (4-Day Enforcement - Super Advanced) > March 13-14 - Tampa Bay, FLORIDA > March 20-21 - Miami, FLORIDA (Enforcement) > March 20-21 - Allentown, PENNSYLVANIA*** > March 27-28 - Jacksonville, FLORIDA > April 10-11-12 & 13??(hopefully) - Sacramento, Calif. - Seminar & Workshop to > Do Your Docs > April 17-18 - St. Louis, MISSOURI - details coming*** > ***Details to register, etc., at turnerclass.blogspot.com; On Left Scroll > Down - click on "RESOURCES - Seminars" for details. To sign up for Tim's, go > to AmericaCanBeFree.com > ***Just to let women and men know, if I'm in a hotel/motel room for a seminar > I'm teaching or attending, I will always share with other gals if anyone > wants to do so to help with the costs of seminars. Men have asked if there's > someone, also, so even 2-in-a-room with 2 beds can cut a $100/night cost down > to $50/night. That's HUGE!! So I'll do what I can to help with this. > Always put "SHARE A ROOM - Seminar Location" > > My time for this email service, the blogspot, Talk Shoe conference calls, > the manual editing, etc., to help support Tim's program is given on a > volunteer basis. If you feel there's been value in these efforts for you and > would give a donation, please send envelopes to DONNA KOZAK, P O BOX 461162, > PAPILLION, NE 68046. If you're sending a box, perishable, etc., please call > for a different address. > > > IF YOU WANT TO BE ON THIS EMAIL LIST FOR FURTHER UPDATES, please send your > info in a run-on sentence (not a list) as such: email address - phone number > - full name - street/city/state-zip address - location/month/year of > seminar/s attended or source/month/year of purchased DVD pkg., or other > source (name/month/year) of Freedom Docs you are using or have used. Date of > your email (such as) 12-31-09 > > The following numbers are from that item listed in "Resources - A Variety" on > blogspot. > > A6. Talk Shoe Conference Calls - live - 724-444-7444 > NOW BOTH WED & THURS ARE ON WED NIGHT BEGINNING 2-17-2010 > Wed. Code 45724; Thurs. Code 46256; mute out - press "star 6" > about 5:45 Pacific Wed. (Tim's on at 6:00); then 7:15 Pacific ON WED for > the Thurs. call > Wed. not geared to "audience" Qs; Thurs. is. Press "star 8" to be in line. > Recorded, listen 24/7: http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/45724 for Wed. or /46256 > for Thurs. > > To listen online during live calls, try the main website link above or this > one for Wed. night: > http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=45724&cmd=tc (46256 > for Thurs.) > Thurs. calls categorized by subject matter: http://www.youhavetheright.com/ > > > A6. > http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=54318&pageNumber=0&pageSize=15 > Monday, Nov. 9th EPISODE22 - Dallas Debt Discussion Janet on Talk Shoe - > GRAND JURY > > > Her 230 page doc supporting every site in the Memorandum of Law - used for > the Grand Jury. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2943724/JGJ_Front_52.pdf > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2943724/JGJ_Middle_88.pdf > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2943724/JGJ_Back_90.pdf > > > www.moneyonaccount.com > DO DOWNLOAD Branson, MO, Maryville, TN 2008, & Denver 3-09 seminar audios > Do NOT NOT NOT use any of the docs from the above web site. They are > out-dated & we have no control over whether they've been altered. Most we've > seen are NOT replicas of Tim's. > This is NOT Tim's website. It's someone's private site. > > B1. www.AmericaCanBeFree.com for a schedule of all of Tim's Seminars > Terrific Interview with Tim: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbE4E769838 > > > > > > Tim - February: Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona > March - Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Miami, Jacksonville > B2. Donna's 2-day weekend "Freedom Documents" Workshop for Tim > > HOST A "FREEDOM DOCUMENTS" SEMINAR (Same instructions as Tim's Seminars) > Flexible - - - can fly - - - plan 4-12 weeks ahead - - - I'll advertise; > You have a no-cost/low-cost location for about 10-30 at tables (can rent if > need be); > Cost: $200 plus a pre-1964 silver dollar per person. > DONNA TEACHING @ > Seminar: Feb. 27-28 - SOUTHBEND, INDIANA (Basics) > Seminar: March 20-21 - Allentown, PENNSYLVANIA (Basics) > Seminar: April 10-11-12 & 13?? - Sacramento, CALIFORNIA (Basics & Workshop > +$300) > Seminar: April 17-18 - St. Louis, MISSOURI - details coming > turnerclass.blogspot.com; scroll down - click on RESOURCES - Seminars > > ********************************* > At turnerclass.blogspot.com - click on "RESOURCES - A VARIETY" > Check out this section so you know what info is available . . . so far. Of > particular importance to the movement for a Constitutional Republican > Restoration form of government is: > C13. A " 'Notice' of Lien" illegally & fraudulently being converted into a > securities instrument by "filing" it in a "Lien" index! > > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1585224678265577210&hl=en > > SEE MORE in "RESOURCES - A VARIETY" at turnerclass.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > -- tom <[email protected]>
