On 3 May 2008, at 9:01 PM, Ivan Werning wrote: > On May 3, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > >> >> On 3 May 2008, at 7:53 PM, Ivan Werning wrote: >> >>> I couldn't find a solution to this problem anywhere. I don't know >>> what >>> is going on. >>> >>> I have an issue with my Skim Latex workflow. I like to use Skim to >>> view my dvi file without going through the whole pdf conversion >>> myself >>> (skim converts the file somehow and displays it). I love this >>> feature >>> of Skim! >>> >>> Whenever I recompile a file which is open in already in skim I want >>> it >>> auto update. After the first time that you update the file one >>> gets a >>> prompt from Skim and select Auto. That should do it. >>> >>> My problem is that it then works off and on, sporadically. Sometimes >>> it updates, sometimes it does not. I haven't discovered any pattern. >>> Anyone else experience this problem? Any idea on how to fix it? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Ivan >> >> The problem is probably because DVI, unlike PDF, does not have a good >> EOF marker. So it is hard to know when latex has finished writing the >> file. There seems to be a series of characters that often appears at >> the end and that Skim checks for, but that does not always appear. >> >> Christiaan > > > Thanks Christiaan > > (btw, sorry for posting with an outdated title) > > This is interesting. It is true that I notice this happens much more > with my dvi latex-generated output than with my pdf latex-generated > output. (Maybe it doesn't happen at all with my pdf latex-generated > output, but I'm not sure. I feel like it happened but I switch so much > between them that I may be confused.) > > Puzzlingly, >File> Revert does go from gray to black, so somehow Skim > knows a file has changed. Why doesn't it auto update then? > > In any case, as a workaround, and useful in its own right, it would be > great if to have a keyboard shortcut for a user initiated update. Such > a feature is common in dvi viewers (although I don't know any good > such dvi viewer for the mac). Then, say I recompile my .dvi and Skim > did not, for some reason, auto update. I could then press a key > combination and update the file (similar to the current >File>Revert > but: a. I need to use the mouse for that. b. I need to confirm that I > want to revert, by hitting OK or enter; and c. next time I update > the .dvi I get asked again about whether I want to allow autoupdate, > that is, Skim forgets my previous answer). I think a high percentage > of Latex users of Skim could benefit from this. > > Thanks > > -Ivan
The auto-reload feature is inherently flawed, there's no way to completely fix it. That's a reason we did not want to add it in the first place. We could add workarounds for the problems that can appear, and workarounds due to the problems caused by the workarounds, and workarounds for that, etc, but we've exhausted those AFAIC. If you want a shortcut for the Revert action you can add it in the system preferences. There is no good natural shortcut, so we won't. The alert is also there for a reason, because reverting can lead to loss of data. As Adam said in his reply, the only good way to solve these problems is if you use a script that tells Skim when to reload. Christiaan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
