On May 19, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Christiaan Hofman wrote: > I've set _all_ options there (Text, Line, Freehand…) to a Dashed > Line Style pattern, anyway. The Dash Pattern is set to "2 > 2" (Wherever this may be explained… -- not in the manual).
>> … The lines panel is NOT the preference, it's a tool to MODIFY the >> style somewhere. Just like the Font panel and the Colors panel work. Just like Apple… - BTW: Cmd+Comma opens Preferences, and, normally (standard behaviour), Cmd+Comma does close them. > And let me say this again, because you don't seem to get it. > > 1. The Lines panel is a TOOL, it's not the SETTING, it only shows > you the setting for the SELECTED element (note or line well control) > and can be used to CHANGE the settings for that selected element. No, you don't get it. "line well control"… Search for "line well" in Skim Help. Got it? You are using terms not used in Skim or elsewhere. Whom do you expect to understand you? > 2. To change the settings for a given note you have to SELECT the > note and then change the settings in the Lines panel. > > 3. So to change the setting of a line well you have to SELECT it and > then change the setting in the Lines panel. > Ok; select an underlined note (the underlined word in the document or the note in the list) and try to change the Underline Line Style or the underline Line Width in the Lines Tool… See any changes? Nothing happens. > 4. The fact that the dash pattern is a series of numbers is in the > tool tip. True. > 5. When you pick up a hammer, the nail is not in the wall, you'll > have to hit the nail. When the hammer is red, it does not mean that > the nail is red (try to think about that.) Well, I did. I for one don't use hammers to color nails. > 6. You should just TRY and THINK instead of throwing up your hands > in the air. It IS an intuitive interface (most users get it.) …most; probably. Or not. I can change the lines in Prefs now. But the way to get there isn't called intuitive, it's called undocumented. And still there are options in the Lines Tool which don't work at all: The graphical buttons for "Beveled line style", "Inset line style", "Underline line style". What are they for? - We are intensely discussing the Lines Tool: Why don't you just say anything about them without beeing asked for? Using these buttons of Line Tool doesn't get anybody anywhere…, neither when used via the Notes' Prefs, nor in the Lines Tool itself. Changing the "Underline Line Style" does not change any underline, "Beveled" and "Inset" do not change any selected notes frame or line, etcetera… > And remember this is a FREE program written completely in FREE time > for NOTHING and OPEN SOURCE, so if you have complaints about the > manual and the interface feel FREE to write it yourself. As I said: >>>>>> First, let me say thank you to all developers of this great >>>>>> software! Charge a fee for Skim and provide decent documentation. But don't release unfinished undocumented features forcing users to ask for help to make you feel better. -- J0hn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Skim-app-users mailing list Skim-app-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-users
