I still have my problems with Skype 4 and the auto answer feature. What I really need is some way to contact Skype. The email they give [email protected] All that does is give me one of those automatic replies That doesn't help at all In this case the help pages are not very helpful. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Capelle" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41andSkype Interphaseandfeature changes
>i disagree, skype 4.1, coupled with the jfw scripts can be accessible, >personally, i am sticking with skype 3.8, but, if i had to, i would, and >could use 4.1. > so, please, stop blaming the developer. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stephanie Smeader" <[email protected]> > To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 andSkype > Interphaseandfeature changes > > >> Yeah I totally agree with you there! >> Why change something like skype 3.8.188 which is totally accessible to >> all screenreaders and then decide to change it? >> that's absolutely stupid and rediculus! >> If the skype developers want to change things around they should think of >> people who sometimes find their upgrades inaccesssible because they don't >> think of how we use skype and so I say that the developers should try >> using their latest version of skype with thir eyes closed! >> Then maybe they'll get the drift! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Nikos Demetriou" <[email protected]> >> To: "'screen access software with skype'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:25 PM >> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype >> Interphaseandfeature changes >> >> >>> Hi Doug. >>> I agree skype 4.1 is very accessible and usable with jaws and your >>> scripts. >>> You did a very good job and I think in some kaces you did skype's job >>> for >>> them. >>> Skype clames that it is accessible but how can it be accessible if it >>> works >>> with some screen readers and it doesn't work with others? >>> With nvda for example when you right click a contact the menus don't >>> speak. >>> I think if a developer made its software trully accessible it wouldn't >>> matter if you used it with jaws or narator. It would still work fine. >>> But for now I can tell you atleast two screen readers where skype 4.1 >>> has >>> problems. These are nvda and hal. >>> So skype 3.8 needs to be there for us who don't use jaws as a primary >>> screen >>> reader. >>> As I said I think you are doing a great job and I think it is skype that >>> doesn't do things right and not you. Skype 3.8 was really accessible >>> with >>> all screen readers and they shouldn't change it. >>> Nikos >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Lee >>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 6:48 PM >>> To: JardataMailServices; screen access software with skype >>> Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] The Reasoning Behind 41 and Skype Interphase >>> andfeature changes >>> >>> I honestly don't think Skype 4.1 is harder to use, just different. >>> Skype 3.8 still works in many places but is no longer supported with >>> updates >>> to scripts or Skype itself. I therefore consider Skype 3.8 an emergency >>> backup plan more than a current alternative. >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:43:10AM -0800, JardataMailServices wrote: >>> Hello List! >>> >>> You know, I have no problem with Skype changing their interphase and/or >>> features; however, I am not yet convinced that they have made the >>> program >>> better for its blind users. For example, all I do with Skype is make >>> contact calls and/or phone calls; use the history feature to do the same >>> kind of thing; and send tons of text/sms messages. 41 makes these >>> simple >>> tasks more difficult and unnecessarily difficult. Skype is fast making >>> this >>> product unusable for Blind people. I find this to be the case in many >>> products of today: companies have great accessible products and, for >>> some >>> reason, they mess it up. Skype can improve their product without >>> totally >>> changing the interphase or making it so difficult and complex to use. >>> >>> Anyway, I have gone back to Skype 41 for another try, but will abandon >>> it >>> totally if I am convinced 38 works in W7 and will continue to work in W7 >>> for >>> the distant feature. If I have to use 41, I will, but I hope it will >>> continue to improve and not continue to become more unusable. >>> >>> I like Skype and use it a lot, so I am hoping it will be useful for me >>> in >>> the feature. >>> >>> Take care everyone and have a nice day. >>> >>> James Robinson& >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access >>> tutorials >>> and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> >>> >>> To contact the list owner send a message to >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go >>> to >>> this link. >>> http://bit.ly/1XIpzq >>> >>> and for a searchable archives page go here. >>> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >>> >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> -- >>> Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org >>> SSB BART Group [email protected] >>> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>> "Believe, when you are most unhappy, that there is something for you to >>> do >>> in the world. So long as you can sweeten another's pain, life is not in >>> vain." --Helen Keller >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access >>> tutorials >>> and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> >>> >>> To contact the list owner send a message to >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go >>> to >>> this link. >>> http://bit.ly/1XIpzq >>> >>> and for a searchable archives page go here. >>> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >>> >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >>> >>> >>> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >>> latest version of skype go to >>> http://www.dlee.org/skype >>> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >>> >>> >>> To contact the list owner send a message to >>> mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go >>> to this link. >>> http://bit.ly/1XIpzq >>> >>> and for a searchable archives page go here. >>> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >>> >>> thanks and have a wonderful day. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skypeenglish mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com >> >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the >> latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go >> to this link. >> http://bit.ly/1XIpzq >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to > this link. > http://bit.ly/1XIpzq > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool that will help install skypewatch for jaws users, go to this link. http://bit.ly/1XIpzq and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
