first I must point out that this is a new releace. it is clear that the
user interface has been updated internally probbably to increase stability.
it is also clear that the skype people have updated the controls used. as
these are new controls so access will need to be updated. this is a fact
of life. also the argument could be maid and should be maid in this case
that the information you are speaking about has been accessable with out any
changes from skype 1.4.78. it is a defishentacy in jaws it self that does
not allow for the use of the skype com interface. so while skype probably
should and probably will provide access to these controls for getting on
line status etc you can't really just point the fingur at skype alone.
for example lets say jaws could not use the dom com interface in microsoft
word. then would you say microsoft has failed to provide a means of
accessing word documents? no you can't make this claimb because the fact is
microsoft provides a com interface for word and it is not the fault of
Microsoft that jaws can not use it. now of course this is not true of word
but it is true for skype. there is a com interface that provides this
information so skype has already maid the information accessible the screen
reader jaws can not use this com interface so the blaim has to be put on the
screen reader. now when we are talking about information that the com
interface does not provide and is not provided buy skype in some means that
the screen reader can not access then you got a accessibility problem. for
example lets look at a qt program that is not using the qt access rapper.
now there is no way to find now you got a situation where there is no way
for a screen reader to get the information from the program and so it needs
to be fixed. on the other hand if they offer another com interface to get
the same information then it is up to the screen reader to access that com
interface and get the information the screen reader needs. if the screen
reader can not access that com interface because of a problem with the
screen reader and not the com interface then it is up to the screen reader
to fix that problem.
lets show another real world example fire fox does not use standard windows
progress bars. how-ever MSAA is used to provide access to the progress
bars. now there is a bug in window-eyes at the moment where MSAA progress
bars create problems. is this some thing mozilla should fix? no Gwmicro is
the one with the issue and they should fix it. in the case of skype Fs is
the one with the issue not allowing access to the skype com interface and
they should fix it. now if skype is willing to use MSAA to provide access
to something they have already provided access to threw the com interface
then we should be glad of this express to them we appreciate it and give
them time to do so. also if your going to be angry at some one get angry at
the makers of jaws who have3 not done anything about allowing access to the
com interface which has been a long standing problem.
at least skype has maid efferts to accommodate for the problem. I have not
seen any efferts on the part of fs to fix the problem on there end.
also remember this making programs accessible is an acomadation they are
making for you. not something they oh you. so luse the owe me adatude.. fs
owes you access because they make the access program you bought and payed
for skype doesn't owe it to you. and they aspehsaly don't owe you twice.
meaning the access is already there and it is not the fault of skype if jaws
can't use it.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Michele Barbi" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 9:42 AM
To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.2 beta status
Well said, Marius! I totally agree! Skype People, WHY ARE YOU ACTING SO
BADLY? Why you promised to improve accessibility and then we're again at
the same situation which occurred with Sk 4.0? We! Want! Actions! And!
Not! Only! Words!
Very angry regards.
The american idiot.
Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the
latest version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this
link.
http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
[email protected]
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest
version of skype go to
http://www.dlee.org/skype
To access tutorials and other goodies go to
http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html
To contact the list owner send a message to
mailto:[email protected]
to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this link.
http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/
and for a searchable archives page go here.
http://bit.ly/64Y48
thanks and have a wonderful day.
_______________________________________________
Skypeenglish mailing list
[email protected]
http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
