Agreed. I try and beta test as many programs as I can in regards to access issues and some devs even invite me to do so. I think that some of us who can should being this up with he skype dev team and use what we have weather it be sam, nvda jaws, hall, or what ever.
We need access to all areas of skype not just contacts. Yes doug has done a good job but it is up to the programmers to make a better product that is accessible right out of the box. This has always been my pet peeve for a while now and I too welcome further discussion regarding this matter. thoughts? S On Feb 25, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Brian Zolo wrote: > Hey there, Doug, Brian Zolo here from Gahanna, Ohio. I have the utmost > respect for you and what you've accomplished with the scripts for Skype and > I want to say a heart felt thank you for all your hard work. I'm troubled > with respect to where we really stand with skype accessibility. Why would > it not be possible for skype to have blind computer users beta test new > releases so that we can give them feedback as to accessibility problems > thereby enhancing our working relationship with skype. You do an awesome > job, Doug, but you're only one person, I'm in no way trying to diminish your > efforts, but I'd like to see these issues solved in a proactive manner > between you, the skype development team and we as the user community who > have a big stake in skype succeeding with respect to accessibility of the > product. I've always said when I address accessibility issues that I want > to be part of the solution and not just part of the problem, I welcome > further discussion of this matter, thanks again, Doug and I certainly > welcome your thoughts and suggestions, let's be a helping hand in our > efforts if you'll allow that, grin1 you have a great day! BZ! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Lee > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 3:13 PM > To: screen access software with skype > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.2 beta status > > Issues in Skype 4.2 Release of which I am aware: > > 1. Arrows are slow in large contact and history lists, with or without > scripts. > Skype will have to fix this. > > 2. There is no way from the keyboard to move between live calls and the > contact or conversation list. Skype should fix this but I can as > well. > > 3. Alt+numbers and Alt+arrows no longer work to read chat messages. > I'll have to fix this. > > 4. SkypeWatch is unable to report sign ins, sign outs, and possibly > other types of alerts. Skype will have to fix this. > > 5. Ctrl+Shift+O no longer works. Same for Command key o and any > letter, for getting subparts of that list. I expect this to be a > permanent change, not to be fixed. The best I might be able to do is > make Ctrl+Shift+O etc. work when the contact list is on screen. > > 6. Insert+F8 includes conversation or contact-list items among the > valid entries. I should be able to fix this. > > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:17:16PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote: > I know about the Alt+number issue. I should be able to fix that one, > I just haven't gotten to it yet. > > On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:54:05PM -0000, Aiden Gardiner wrote: > Hi Doug, > > Another issue is that when in a conversation, the scripts do not think > your in a conversation window when you press alt 1 through 0, but my > previous issue with the scripts thinking that skype was not aware that > a screen reader was running seems to have been corrected in this > version, so I don't need to rely so much on clisk for text chatting. > > Aiden > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> > To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:28 PM > Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.2 beta status > > >> I just received word that Skype 4.2 has just come out of beta. I can >> therefore say this now, and hopefully more later. >> >> There have been a number of differences among Skype 4.2 beta versions >> that affected JAWS and the Skype scripts. As has sometimes happened >> before, I did not manage to figure out which version would be released >> ahead of time, though this time it was mostly because I didn't get to >> it in time. >> >> The 4.2 release does not currently work very well with the scripts. >> The biggest reason is that Skype 4.2 consolidates the contact list, >> conversation list, and history into one window internally. This does >> not change what things look like much, but it does prevent the scripts >> from having a way to identify which "window" is active as they did >> before. This change also means that, when you're in the conversation >> list or history, the scripts will have no way to find out what >> contacts are online in your contact list, because the contact list is >> no longer available when it is not visible. The effect is that >> Ctrl+Shift+O and the various commands for listing online, away, etc., >> contacts will no longer work in Skype 4.2. I must stress that this is >> not an accessibility problem, because we were accessing things that >> weren't accessible to sighted people. :) It is admittedly an >> inconvenience, but an inevitable one. >> >> So for now, I recommend that JAWS users stick with Skype 4.1. I will >> address the scripting issues in 4.2 as soon as I can. >> >> >> -- >> Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org >> SSB BART Group [email protected] >> http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >> "It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few >> accomplish >> it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese >> >> Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >> the latest version of skype go to >> http://www.dlee.org/skype >> To access tutorials and other goodies go to >> http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> >> >> To contact the list owner send a message to >> mailto:[email protected] >> >> to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to >> this link. >> http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ >> >> and for a searchable archives page go here. >> http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >> thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skypeenglish mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this > link. > http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > "Sometimes I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews > > -- > Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org > SSB BART Group [email protected] > http://www.ssbbartgroup.com > Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't. > (02/05/2010) > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this > link. > http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4896 (20100225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature > database 4896 (20100225) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the > latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > To access tutorials and other goodies go to > http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this > link. > http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://bit.ly/64Y48 > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this link. http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
