Ah yes, I'll write that one down. The structure of the list has changed, and there are more than just list items in there now. JAWS probably shouldn't say a count at all because it will be hard to get it right, but I personally would rather a count that's a little off than no count at all, so I may just leave this one as it is now. Getting it right would require manually, from a script, counting the items, and that could take a notable amount of time and CPU power for those with large contact lists. It's way bigger an issue in History, where the problem is the same but list items can number in the thousands for some of us.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 10:01:16PM -0000, Aiden Gardiner wrote: Hi Doug, Possibly a 7, although i'm not sure if it's just my machine miss behaving. when arrowing through the contact list, jaws reports an incorrect number of contacts in the list. I have 8 contacts on my list, and jaws keeps reporting so many out of 12. Aiden ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.2 beta status >Issues in Skype 4.2 Release of which I am aware: > >1. Arrows are slow in large contact and history lists, with or >without scripts. >Skype will have to fix this. > >2. There is no way from the keyboard to move between live calls and the >contact or conversation list. Skype should fix this but I can as >well. > >3. Alt+numbers and Alt+arrows no longer work to read chat messages. >I'll have to fix this. > >4. SkypeWatch is unable to report sign ins, sign outs, and possibly >other types of alerts. Skype will have to fix this. > >5. Ctrl+Shift+O no longer works. Same for Command key o and any >letter, for getting subparts of that list. I expect this to be a >permanent change, not to be fixed. The best I might be able to do is >make Ctrl+Shift+O etc. work when the contact list is on screen. > >6. Insert+F8 includes conversation or contact-list items among the >valid entries. I should be able to fix this. > > >On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 12:17:16PM -0500, Doug Lee wrote: >I know about the Alt+number issue. I should be able to fix that one, >I just haven't gotten to it yet. > >On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:54:05PM -0000, Aiden Gardiner wrote: >Hi Doug, > >Another issue is that when in a conversation, the scripts do not think >your in a conversation window when you press alt 1 through 0, but my >previous issue with the scripts thinking that skype was not aware that >a screen reader was running seems to have been corrected in this >version, so I don't need to rely so much on clisk for text chatting. > >Aiden >----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Lee" <[email protected]> >To: "screen access software with skype" <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 4:28 PM >Subject: [Skypeenglish] Skype 4.2 beta status > > >>I just received word that Skype 4.2 has just come out of beta. I can >>therefore say this now, and hopefully more later. >> >>There have been a number of differences among Skype 4.2 beta versions >>that affected JAWS and the Skype scripts. As has sometimes happened >>before, I did not manage to figure out which version would be released >>ahead of time, though this time it was mostly because I didn't get to >>it in time. >> >>The 4.2 release does not currently work very well with the scripts. >>The biggest reason is that Skype 4.2 consolidates the contact list, >>conversation list, and history into one window internally. This does >>not change what things look like much, but it does prevent the scripts >>from having a way to identify which "window" is active as they did >>before. This change also means that, when you're in the conversation >>list or history, the scripts will have no way to find out what >>contacts are online in your contact list, because the contact list is >>no longer available when it is not visible. The effect is that >>Ctrl+Shift+O and the various commands for listing online, away, etc., >>contacts will no longer work in Skype 4.2. I must stress that this is >>not an accessibility problem, because we were accessing things that >>weren't accessible to sighted people. :) It is admittedly an >>inconvenience, but an inevitable one. >> >>So for now, I recommend that JAWS users stick with Skype 4.1. I will >>address the scripting issues in 4.2 as soon as I can. >> >> >>-- >>Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org >>SSB BART Group [email protected] >>http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >>"It's not easy to be crafty and winsome at the same time, and few >>accomplish >>it after the age of six." --John W. Gardner and Francesca Gardner Reese >> >>Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >>the latest version of skype go to >>http://www.dlee.org/skype >>To access tutorials and other goodies go to >>http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html >> >> >>To contact the list owner send a message to >>mailto:[email protected] >> >>to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to >>this link. >>http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ >> >>and for a searchable archives page go here. >>http://bit.ly/64Y48 >> >>thanks and have a wonderful day. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Skypeenglish mailing list >>[email protected] >>http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > > >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype >To access tutorials and other goodies go to >http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > >To contact the list owner send a message to >mailto:[email protected] > >to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to >this link. >http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ > >and for a searchable archives page go here. >http://bit.ly/64Y48 > >thanks and have a wonderful day. > > >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >[email protected] >http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com > >-- >Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org >SSB BART Group [email protected] >http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >"Sometimes I think my learning curve is a circle." -- David Andrews > >-- >Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org >SSB BART Group [email protected] >http://www.ssbbartgroup.com >Time is the friend of one who is true, and the enemy of one who isn't. >(02/05/2010) > >Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for >the latest version of skype go to >http://www.dlee.org/skype >To access tutorials and other goodies go to >http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html > > >To contact the list owner send a message to >mailto:[email protected] > >to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to >this link. >http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ > >and for a searchable archives page go here. >http://bit.ly/64Y48 > >thanks and have a wonderful day. > > >_______________________________________________ >Skypeenglish mailing list >[email protected] >http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this link. http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com -- Doug Lee [email protected] http://www.dlee.org SSB BART Group [email protected] http://www.ssbbartgroup.com "It is not the mountain in the distance which makes you want to stop walking; but the grain of sand in your shoe." --Anon Thanks for posting to the skype english list. To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To access tutorials and other goodies go to http://www.marrie.org/skype/skype.html To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] to download a tool to automate the installation of skypewatch go to this link. http://www.hrvojekatic.tk/ and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://emissives.com/mailman/listinfo/skypeenglish_emissives.com
