am using jaws and NVDA am not using a mac therefore not using voiceover. so there is not a search button. I hit search for contacts the edit field appears type a name or email then nothing to start the search. it says clear search input then the does skype power your passion crap which I keep telling it to hide. there is not a go or a search button to say Okay start search for who and what I have typed. it used to be before microsoft took over skype the search feature gave you several edit fields. you could everything you know about that particular person. it was like that on GW connect you saw a field that said, skype name. then tabbing over you saw full name. tabbing over you saw email then the field for results then the search button. if no results came back nothing appeared. it’s the same issue with pandora. all of pandoras main commands are centered around arrows, the plus and minus keys. so since those also are screen reader functions nothing actually works. this is because pandora apparently had no concept of what a screen reader is and what it does. when you say screen reader to some sighted people they say Oh, browser or Oh speech recognition. have been asked by some sighted what speech recognition I’m using. they honestly don’t know the differents. it wasn’t until after pandora was launched that someone noticed that blind couldn’t use it well. it is better with browsers that use HTML 5 but it still has drawbacks. in my pandora the list of stations reads as a list. no lingks buttons or anything to change it on the fly. I’ve found a workaround using NVDA the skip that track command is the right arrow. have found that on NVDA add the alt key and you can skip. it doesn’t work on all commands the thumbs down which is the minus key doesn’t work and the alt left arrow will go back to the previous page you were on not the previous track so likely it takes you out of pandora back to the start page of the browser. on searches the workaround is if you search for an artist by typing in that artist and just hit enter without tabbing over if a result is there it will automaticly create a new station but only if the artist has a single result. there is no visible create station showing in the search results. this was all because screen readers which most of us use are third party programs. with the mac, the screen reader was built into the operating system so a pandora for example for the mac takes into account how a screen reader is designed. this was why GW micro developed GW connect in the first place because skype when updated gets some change in it’s functionality. this version the latest is the clunkiest most bulky I’ve seen. You had to tell it to make itself more accesible. I know of sighted people who don’t know how to listen to a voicemail in fact, I don’t know how either. also can’t figure out why on some of my contacts it says unread messages... the other reason why voiceover references won’t help me much is a lot of what is done on a mac isn’t the internet. a lot of it is apps. you know that catch phrase, there’s an app for that. if we aren’t careful we will lose what access we have because the blind are to small a minority for corporations to care about or worry about. skype and all others are going to go where the most people are and most people are sighted. that’s why we need lists like this one.
From: Sarah Alawami Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 4:49 AM To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts You never said what screen reader you are running. skype works fine wiht nvda and others outside the box. you just need patience to use it. I can use skype in the mac with voice over after they made some external improvements to the program a around after you hit the search button, or start typing in the contact table list the name you want. From there you should be good to go. Skype is getting more and more stream lined in my opinion. It's a learning curve but if we all take the time, we can all without scripts or with miniminal scripting work use the interface. Tc to all. On Aug 9, 2014, at 16:17, Peter Scanlon <[email protected]> wrote: We should all write to Microsoft to allow the use of GWConnect again. From: ken lawrence Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 9:06 AM To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. Subject: [Skypeenglish] searching for contacts Hi skyp users have enabled the search for contacts but don’t see a search button, jst the clear button andwhen I try enter without hitting a button nothing happens. I’m telling you skype is clunkier and clunkier by the day. we are going to lose what access we have if we aren’t careful. how do you search for contacts by name email or skype name. nothing happens and there is not search button. even when I have enabled that hot key. an idea would some kind of mobile app be more accessible for a blind user the same way the mobile facebook sight is used as an alternative to the standard skype? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://bit.ly/64Y48 thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com
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