You see, it's not just about having good antivirus solution available. It is also about having common practices. There are things that people need to remember that only would make sense, , not clicking on things that you have no idea where they came from.
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Jeremy via Skypeenglish > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well, you've just outlined that there is no perfect solution and all > antivirus utilities have their own types of problems. My argument is... look > at the numbers. Though your tech guy stated MSE was a poor antivirus (his > opinion), where is the proof of people becoming infected by the droves > especially since MSE is the most used antivirus out there. Antivirus > utilities are not tested by day to day users, they are tested in controlled > environments where antivirus solutions from now to back some 10 or 20 years > ago are thrown at them. Most people would not experience this environment in > their daily computing. There is no antivirus around which has immunity > against even the bulk of viruses since it would make the utility 100 gigs in > size. It is for this reason antivirus developers have moved from single > bandaids per virus to heuristics. > > I should also add that before MSE, a license of Nod32 would run about $40 or > $50 for annual renewal, now, one can purchase a 3 computer Nod32 license for > about $20 via Newegg.com and alike. This is because MSE has killed the > antivirus gravy train. Antivirus developers have a steak in trying to > discredit MSE, and they will do and say whatever it takes to return to the > late 90's and early 2000's where they had everyone with a computer living in > fear and handing over their $$$. > > Again, I've been using MSE since it's release some 7 years ago and not a > single problem at all. I should also add that I changed to MSE because I > lost faith in Nod32 when it allowed a nasty virus to destroy all my data. I > will also add that no matter if you have the entire development team from > Eset sitting next to you, if you are presented with a prompt on a webpage > asking you to click on a link, a person pressing on the link is all that is > needed to allow the virus to infect your computer and there is no antivirus > which can prevent the nasty outcome. On just about a weekly basis Leo > Laporte takes a phone call from someone who has fallen victom to the > CryptoLocker virus, and they "all" say they are running antivirus--what's > probably embarrassing to Leo is that at times the users tell him that they > were running Nod32 and it didn't stop the virus--Nod32 is one of his > longtime sponsors. > > JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita via Skypeenglish > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:58 PM > To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype problems > > I also use Nod32 which is now called Esset Antivirus and it is the best. I > don't have any problems with it. > I also used Kaspersky and it was pretty good, but it eats more resources > and it started to have bigger accessibility problems. > I also used Norton Antivirus but it was a very poor antivirus and some > viruses caused me some problems. > I also used AVG but it used to crash a lot and considered some valid > applications which I made as containing viruses. (Problem solved by them > after a time though). > The company I bought the computer from said that Microsoft Security > Essentials is a poor antivirus and that even MS employees recommend using it > only if the user doesn't have a better antivirus. > This is what I know about the modern antiviruses. > > --Octavian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian Hartgen via Skypeenglish > <mailto:[email protected]> > To: 'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.' > <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype > problems > > > Hi > > > > For years I've been using Nod32 at > > www.nod32.co.uk > > All our machines run it, it's not a resource hog, there's an > accessibility mode and it's just great. > > Any customer I build a machine for has that installed. > > > > I hope that helps. > > > > Brian Hartgen > > Hartgen Consultancy > > www.hartgen.org <http://www.hartgen.org> > > Phone UK: 02920-850298. > > Phone US: 415-871-0626 > > > > JAWS Certified, 2014 > > > > > > From: Skypeenglish > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike > DeZinno via Skypeenglish > Sent: 06 February 2015 16:04 > To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface. > Subject: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype problems > > > > Good morning Skypites: > I'm just putting this out there as a possible explanation for some > of the random nature of the Skype issues I have been reading about in recent > weeks. > I see some of you having certain issues and others challenging them > responding back that others aren't having those issues so the answer is not > what someone else just shared here in the forum. > Here is what I just learned yesterday which has me wondering if we > might not be looking in the wrong place for answers. > I'm a JAWS user currently working with JAWS 16. > About two months ago I had many of the problems we have seen > discussed here in the group and many of you were kind enough to offer help > and I was able to go backward to a prior version of Skype and JAWS scripts > and since that time all has been well until recently. > Over the last few weeks Jaws has been acting weird with Skype and a > few other older applications that I have been using for years. > The problems in nature are intermittent and because of that have > been difficult to nail down for a definite cause. > Yesterday a high level JAWS tech user told me that recent upgrades > in some of the anti virus software could be the cause of some of our issues > because of the way screen readers work it sees a screen reader as a > potential possible threat. > I'm currently using Avast and he did say that Avast is for sure on > that list, so now I need your help again. > What are you all using for virus protection that isn't messing up > your screen reader and that's also blind friendly to use? > Thanks for any and all help, > Mike, from SC > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account > email [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com > > > Thanks for posting to the skype english list. > > to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email > [email protected] > > To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to > http://www.dlee.org/skype > > > To contact the list owner send a message to > mailto:[email protected] > > and for a searchable archives page go here. > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > > thanks and have a wonderful day. > > _______________________________________________ > Skypeenglish mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com Thanks for posting to the skype english list. to contact skype support with any questions regarding your account email [email protected] To access scripts for the latest version of skype go to http://www.dlee.org/skype To contact the list owner send a message to mailto:[email protected] and for a searchable archives page go here. http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ thanks and have a wonderful day. _______________________________________________ Skypeenglish mailing list [email protected] http://lists.tffppodcast.com/listinfo.cgi/skypeenglish-tffppodcast.com
