Well, you've just outlined that there is no perfect solution and all
antivirus utilities have their own types of problems. My argument is... look
at the numbers. Though your tech guy stated MSE was a poor antivirus (his
opinion), where is the proof of people becoming infected by the droves
especially since MSE is the most used antivirus out there. Antivirus
utilities are not tested by day to day users, they are tested in controlled
environments where antivirus solutions from now to back some 10 or 20 years
ago are thrown at them. Most people would not experience this environment in
their daily computing. There is no antivirus around which has immunity
against even the bulk of viruses since it would make the utility 100 gigs in
size. It is for this reason antivirus developers have moved from single
bandaids per virus to heuristics. 

I should also add that before MSE, a license of Nod32 would run about $40 or
$50 for annual renewal, now, one can purchase a 3 computer Nod32 license for
about $20 via Newegg.com and alike. This is because MSE has killed the
antivirus gravy train. Antivirus developers have a steak in trying to
discredit MSE, and they will do and say whatever it takes to return to the
late 90's and early 2000's where they had everyone with a computer living in
fear and handing over their $$$. 

Again, I've been using MSE since it's release some 7 years ago and not a
single problem at all. I should also add that I changed to MSE because I
lost faith in Nod32 when it allowed a nasty virus to destroy all my data. I
will also add that no matter if you have the entire development team from
Eset sitting next to you, if you are presented with a prompt on a webpage
asking you to click on a link, a person pressing on the link is all that is
needed to allow the virus to infect your computer and there is no antivirus
which can prevent the nasty outcome. On just about a weekly basis Leo
Laporte takes a phone call from someone who has fallen victom to the
CryptoLocker virus, and they "all" say they are running antivirus--what's
probably embarrassing to Leo is that at times the users tell him that they
were running Nod32 and it didn't stop the virus--Nod32 is one of his
longtime sponsors. 

JR 

-----Original Message-----
From: Skypeenglish [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita via Skypeenglish
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:58 PM
To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype problems

I also use Nod32 which is now called Esset Antivirus and it is the best. I
don't have any problems with it.
I also used Kaspersky and it was pretty good, but  it eats more resources
and it started to have bigger accessibility problems.
I also used Norton Antivirus but it was a very poor antivirus and some
viruses caused me some problems.
I also used AVG but it used to crash a lot and considered some valid
applications which I made as containing viruses. (Problem solved by them
after a time though).
The company I bought the computer from said that Microsoft Security
Essentials is a poor antivirus and that even MS employees recommend using it
only if the user doesn't have a better antivirus.
This is what I know about the modern antiviruses.
 
--Octavian


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Brian Hartgen via Skypeenglish
<mailto:[email protected]>  
        To: 'screen readers' access to skype and its interface.'
<mailto:[email protected]>  
        Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:07 PM
        Subject: Re: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype
problems


        Hi

         

        For years I've been using Nod32 at

        www.nod32.co.uk

        All our machines run it, it's not a resource hog, there's an
accessibility mode and it's just great.

        Any customer I build a machine for has that installed.

         

        I hope that helps.

         

        Brian Hartgen

        Hartgen Consultancy

        www.hartgen.org <http://www.hartgen.org> 

        Phone UK: 02920-850298.

        Phone US: 415-871-0626

         

        JAWS Certified, 2014

         

         

        From: Skypeenglish
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike
DeZinno via Skypeenglish
        Sent: 06 February 2015 16:04
        To: screen readers' access to skype and its interface.
        Subject: [Skypeenglish] another place to consider for Skype problems

         

        Good morning Skypites:
        I'm just putting this out there as a possible explanation for some
of the random nature of the Skype issues I have been reading about in recent
weeks.
        I see some of you having certain issues and others challenging them
responding back that others aren't having those issues so the answer is not
what someone else just shared here in the forum.
         Here is what I just learned yesterday which has me wondering if we
might not be looking in the wrong place for answers.
         I'm a JAWS user currently working with JAWS 16.
        About two months ago I had many of the problems we have seen
discussed here in the group and many of you were kind enough to offer help
and I was able to go backward to a prior version of Skype and JAWS scripts
and since that time all has been well until recently.
        Over the last few weeks Jaws has been acting weird with Skype and a
few other older applications that I have been using for years.
        The problems in nature are intermittent and because of that have
been difficult to nail down for a definite  cause.
        Yesterday a high level JAWS tech user told me that recent upgrades
in some of the anti virus software could be the cause of some of our issues
because of the way screen readers work it sees a screen reader as a
potential possible threat.
        I'm currently using Avast and he did say that Avast is for sure on
that list, so now I need your help again.
        What are you all using for virus protection that isn't messing up
your screen reader and that's also blind friendly to use?
        Thanks for any and all help,
        Mike, from SC
         

        
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