Definitely agree with Remy on this.

About a year ago, I examined Avalon quite a bit. The IOC part is very nice, but the 
framework is a bit too heavy IMO. 

Maybe Spring or PicoContainer would be worth examining instead.

If Slide2.0 is becoming close, it would be a bad idea to change too much now. I'd say 
do a beta or RC1 as soon as possible, remove the bugs, and then create the official 
release.

Then it could be a time for considering using another framework (Avalon, Spring, Pico).

Actually I thought that this project was more or less dead, good to proven wrong.

Anyway I can help?

Kent



Remy Maucherat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edison Too wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I agree with Stefano's observation that there is a need
> for a good
> > content repository. I've looked into Slide's code before
> and I can't
> > help but wonder if it is a good idea for Slide to be
> implemented
> > using Avalon.
> > 
> > The server core can be broken down into 3 blocks 1.
> Content
> > repository (store?) 2. User management 3. Access Control
> management 
> > These are very useful/essential component which are
> (AFAIK) strangely
> > missing in the current crop of Avalon
> Components/Services.
> > 
> > Advantage of migrating : 1. Reuse of Avalon components
> such as
> > configuration/connections/pooling/logging etc. 2.
> Deployable as a
> > standalone or servlet using Fortress or Phoenix. 3. If a
> Cache block
> > comes along (from Cocoon maybe?) it can be reused in Slide
> to improve
> > performance. 4. Attract more developers from the land of
> Avalon or
> > Cocoon. I think it will open up a lot of possibilities.
> Think of it,
> > with James, Slide, Cocoon, interesting server apps can be
> built.
> > 
> > I know it's not easy to switch and most developers dread
> such a big
> > change especially when r2.0 is in view. This is just a
> thought I feel
> > worth discussing, especially when Stefano says he will
> investing his
> > time into Slide.
> > 
> > I'm not an expert with Avalon, but I'm willing to invest
> some time if
> > this the direction Slide decide to pursue.
> > 
> > Thoughts?
> 
> If I was still involved in this project, the answer would
> be: of course not.
> Avalon provides a set of utility components which all seem
> inferior to 
> what is available in the commons without any strings
> attached, and as a 
> result, I've been very careful to avoid using it.
> As for deployment of "blocks" or "services" (if you really
> need it in 
> this case), a JMX based model (using commons-modeler 1.1, of
> course) is 
> immensely more flexible, introduces almost zero coupling in
> the 
> application, and is standards based.
> 
> Of course, Slide committers are free to decide to do
> whatever they want :)
> 
> R�my
> 
> 
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