Hello Stefano, Thanks for the clarification. This is a lot more complicated than I have thought before.
OK, let the PCM decide. Regards Juergen -----Original Message----- From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2004 14:42 To: Slide Developers Mailing List Subject: Re: [VOTE] Tamino store and user-role-management donation On 22 Jan 2004, at 11:45, Pill, Juergen wrote: > Hello, > > To my understanding everyone does have a vote, but a *binding* vote is > reserved for committers only. Committers should have a look at the non > binding votes to ensure maximum democracy. This is the correct spirit, yes, but legally, only the PMC is responsible for the legal oversight, so only the PMC can decide that actions to do that might lead to legal responsibility. A release is one of such acts. > The members of the PCM set the overall project direction, in my opinion > they decide the creation of new projects. no, a PMC is not entitle anymore to create a new project. The incubator has such responsibility. Which leads to the question: why do we need a PMC for a container project? to which I answer "we don't, let's get rid of it", but history and ego play a big role in those discussions and not all jakarta projects want their own PMC. > Everything, which is Slide specific, can be decided by the votes on > this > list, with committers having binding votes. The reason why I want Slide to exit jakarta and earn its PMC is exactly to make this 'de-facto' operation legal and reflected in the foundation hierarchy of projects. > I found some infos on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html. Keep in mind that some of that info is not up-to-date since it is partially in conflict between "highly-codebase-focused PMCs" (HTTPD, APR, Ant, Cocoon) and "container-oriented PMCs" (jakarta, xml, db) The role of the committers/PMC is not (unfortunately) the same across the entire foundation... and making it homogenic will require some time. -- Stefano. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
