What would Avalon get you for a CMS beyond a pluggable way to add components to your CMS? Is there an open source CMS based on Avalon?
Thanks, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: RE: Who is using slide in production environment? > Excellent response, we are also evaluating other infrastructures for use > in our applications. WebDAV IS part of our needs so Slide is attractive > for that reason. We are looking at OpenCMS and Avalon as alternatives. A > CMS based on Avalon seems to be the best Architectural decision, but a lot > of work. Perhaps Migrating Slide to Avalon would achieve the best of both > worlds. > > Michael Oliver > CTO/Matrix Intermedia > 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. > Tucson, AZ 85747 > Office (520)574-1150 > Cell (518)378-6154 > > > James Higginbotham said: > > Hi, > > > > Disclaimer: I'm not a commiter nor do I represent the Slide team, but > > here are my findings as a user of the framework. > > > > There are mailing list archives that discuss the status, but basically > > all of the team members are busy with other projects. The project needs > > a dedicated lead with commit and version rollout status, but before you > > can do that you have to submit patches to the project to fix bugs. Once > > they see that all is well with you, you can get commit status and then > > hopefully help stabilize the product and maybe get a 2.0 rollout done. > > Slide is a great project with a lot of effort out into it that has been > > neglected recently. I think with some dedicated help, it could become a > > fantastic framework - time which most on this list (including myself) > > just can't dedicate right now. > > > > I've found that it makes a great DAV/Delta-V server framework with nice > > things like interceptors on the server side for hooking other processes > > into the framework. If you don't need that, you can decide whether a > > pre-canned solution will work better since this project gets little > > attention code/bug wise. Also, the framework is really good for document > > management via DAV, or dedicated content management without DAV with a > > lot of work to make it do what you want. It has no good examples to > > learn from, other than a non-thread-safe struts admin client that is > > mostly-read-only. Most projects built off of slide are for internal > > intranet or commercial products, so you will find mostly consumers > > rather than producers to the framework (beyond basic bug fixes). The > > framework was built to facilitate DAV, and later DeltaV, but was never > > really architected for a true CMS application framework. Much of the > > frameowk requires you to be in the same classloader (no cross-VM > > invocation framework) and all of the versioning code is tied to HTTP and > > the DAV servlet that handles incoming DAV/DeltaV requests. There is some > > work around making this framework handle the upcoming JSRs (170 and 147 > > *I think*) that define a CMS API. The webdav client API uses HTTP > > commons client and is stable, but a little tough to figure out (the API > > was built around the spec rather than a convienant API). I think Slide > > is the most neglected project @ Jakarta, and I hope this changes soon. > > > > In the past I submitted a proposal for a revised architecture for Slide, > > from the perspective of an architect who is trying to use Slide as a CMS > > kernel in a webapp (webdav being nice but not a requirement for my > > needs). Here is the MARC link: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03616.html > > > > Followup discussions are shown at the bottom and clarify a few issues, > > specifically: > > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03618.html > > > > Hope this helps you determine if this framework will work for you. Take > > a look, give it a spin, and see what it can do for you. If it does most > > of what you want, you can contribute a little work and get it to do what > > you want it to do without rebuilding from scratch. I hope to do that > > soon when time allows, but for now I have to locate a precanned CMS > > solution as I have not the time to dedicate. Slide will make a wonderful > > doc mgmt framework (like MS SharePoint) and, with a little help, a CMS > > framework. > > > > Regards, > > James > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Michael Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:12 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: Who is using slide in production environment? > >> > >> > >> Ditto on Martin's request with the added question, what is > >> the state of the development of Slide, it seems to be stalled > >> and no progress to speak of in the last 18 months or so. > >> > >> Michael Oliver > >> CTO/Matrix Intermedia > >> 7391 S. Bullrider Ave. > >> Tucson, AZ 85747 > >> Office (520)574-1150 > >> Cell (518)378-6154 > >> > >> > >> Martin Taal said: > >> > Hi All, > >> > We are considering to use slide as a content repository > >> layer in our > >> > application framework. Although I see some modest traffic on the > >> mailing list I am not sure if and how slide is used in practice. > >> > > >> > So my question is: is there a list of live > >> products/projects in which > >> > slide is being used? If not, I am just interested from > >> others if and > >> > how they are using slide in live products/projects. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > With Regards, Martin Taal > >> > > >> > Springsite > >> > Barchman Wuytierslaan 72b > >> > 3818 LK Amersfoort > >> > tel: +31 (0)33 462 02 07 > >> > fax: +31 (0)33 463 77 12 > >> > Mobile: +31 (0)6 288 48 943 > >> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > web: www.springsite.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For > >> additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
