Jamie Honan wrote:


> Just to back Ken up here. Several of us met at the Crystal Palace Hotel
> to see what we could do for Computerbank.

Jamie - any chance of a summary, or is Basil posting it on
Computerbank?

> 
> The figure that predator quoted (600,000 rather than 800k) was probably
> from a study done by Dames and Moore consulting engineers, using some ABS
> statistics in their report.

So there are stacks of them around in theory. The problem is that
286's, 386's and 486's are very limited use.
>
> Computerbank is different from TAD in several ways. The first is
> that CB is simply concerned with computers going to 'good causes',
> not just disabled folk. In addition CB, at present, won't / can't load
> Windows onto any machine.

Which is a reason for SLUG to be kept informed.
> 
> While I don't want to denigrate, or place a lesser value on the
> efforts of volunteers, I'm not completely sure that a volunteer group
> is the answer (to reducing the waste of 600,000 machines)

Just to do anything, we all have limitations. My limitation is storage
space and I'm better endowed that others (sorry - couldn't resist that
one {:-).

As I understood it, the problem with computerbank in Sydney was
storage/workshop space. So, if anyone knows of a long term vacant
warehouse - hint hint!.

Starting a formal organisation with paid staff is a major project.

> * Dump waste that is completely useless. Possibly up to 50%. (Waste
> dumping is expensive)

This is a lot easier to do, if it is in bulk. Recyclers don't make
much/anything if they have to do a lot of handling.

> Part of the solution is that businesses will have to take responsibility
> for their computer waste (I.e. they should pay someone to take machines
> away, or pay a big premium to take to the tip)

It seems some accept that they have to pay for waste disposal anyway,
so they might be prepared to "donate" the disposal fee.

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