>   get xemacs (at least version 21)

>   M-x jde

>   class browser, easy links to javadoc, click to compile, click to
>   debug, etc, etc

>   will work on windows or any unix. can even use gtk with the new(ish)
>   xemacs/gtk port (so jeff/raster can still have their themes).

drool drool. I haven't had to do too much java development but I might have
a bit in the near future so I will take this recommendation on board. I'm
a bit of a GNU Emacs man rather than an XEmacs man but I will try some of
the things under XEmacs. The two best editors are XEmacs and GNU Emacs, the
only academic question that people should differ in is which one is first
and which one is second :)

I will add that editing Perl code under Emacs is a delight, for all of
you perl hackers out there. Emacs can *almost* keep track of Perl syntax
and which brackets match with which other ones and so on. Full version control
and debugger integration, naturally.

>   (why do people keep using anything other than xemacs
>    (for non-trivial tasks) ?)

It's got me scratching my head as well. I really recommend people give Emacs
a go and try and "get" it. I was sold within an hour of my first editing
session when I discovered what Control-t did. I don't want to start a flame
war or another emacs vs vi debate, but I do encourage you all to give Emacs
a go.

>   (slight aside: everyone should try M-x speedbar
>    its a directory/file browser, except that you can also click on
>    *many* types of file and see/jump to "interesting sections" in the
>    file. eg: functions for c, sections for LaTeX, etc)

It sounds like dired after a few cans of coke and cups of coffee. 
And there's dozens of other groovy things like this in Emacs. To paraphrase
the ads on TV at the moment encouraging people to go to the Olympics:
"It's the editor of a lifetime, it really is. So grab your Emacs and go".

> > Graphical elements that run the existing tools conveniently for the user
> > without having to leave the environment. 

> i believe stuart was actually saying "use xemacs, it already does what
> you want" ;)

Whenever I use the phrase "without having to leave the environment", I
always think of Emacs, it's just so convenient.

Stuart.


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