Clinton,

I'll copy SLUG in on this because I'll be truthful.

If you want a simple system that will manage software fixes / issues /
reports that will run out of the box with Windows / Unix TCL/TK clients
(tkngats) it is an excellent drop in solution. You get included a simple web
interface, a simple notification system that can tell you if a job has not
even been touched by staff within a timeframe (office hours or 24).

If you want to have a commercial grade help desk that will do SMS / email
notifications based on more than 1 condition / phases, statistics, well
presented web interface (there are 2 for gnats) the answer IS NO gnats is
not an out of the box solution.

I lost my last job due to issues with a zealous IT manager who got behind
gnats because it was simple, then started complaining when it couldn't do
escalations his way. I spent 2 weeks doing stupid hours programming in perl
to keep him quiet. The day I finished it I resigned: P

Luke


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Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 2:33 PM
To: 'Luke McKee'
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Helpdesk

Look like I Will have a look at Gnat. 
Are there many hidden traps as I am trying to get something up and
running pretty quickly.

Cheers

Clinton Gaddes 
IT Operations Manager NSWTRB
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-----Original Message-----
From: Luke McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 2:24 PM
To: Clinton gaddes
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Helpdesk

Gnat's web is good. 
It is pearl and you could integrate it in a PHP environment with frames
without too much work. There is also a statistics module written by
Jupiter
systems.

It's a good product. Pit a perl programmer on it for 2 weeks to re-do
what I
did (time based escalations and paging) and add a nice front door script
(so
you can redefine priority / severity levels from the gnats defaults
because
they can get a bit cryptic.

Good luck.

Luke


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Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 2:24 PM
To: 'Luke McKee'
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Helpdesk

Stone keep?

I was trying PHPhelp desk but the doc is terrible.

Cheers


Clinton Gaddes 
IT Operations Manager NSWTRB
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-----Original Message-----
From: Luke McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 2:05 PM
To: Clinton gaddes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SLUG] Helpdesk

GNU GNATS!

My experience with GNATS: 2 years at previous jobs that used it.

It's very good for managing software bugs from the moment they are
reported
threw the final resolution, and documentation in release notes & prog
dogs.

I've been temped at offering doing a talk about it for some time for
SLUG.
I have written time based escalation modules in perl and in-house
enhancements to the front door script that cleans up incoming mime email
messages to it.

Stone keep does a better job for trouble ticket scenarios like broken
printers (run of the mill stuff).

Hope I helped.

Luke

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Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 12:08 PM
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Subject: [SLUG] Helpdesk


Hey guys does any one no off a really good helpdesk ticketing
systems....via
Linux.

Cheers


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