On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 03:53:58PM +1000, Angus Lees wrote:
> > >  http://www.paulgraham.com/icad.html
> > > the later points in the description of "what made lisp different"
> > > (about 1/3 of the way in) exactly describes several "emerging"
> > > commonalities i've been seeing in recent languages, but i hadn't been
> > > able to put into words until now.
> > Yes, I thought the same. It's a pity that LISP's syntactical form,
> > the inefficiency of poorly written LISP programs and a general lack of
> > library support often makes it as popular among programmers as a leper at a
> > beauty pageant.
> and now they expect humans to read and write XML instead of lisp, and
> think thats an improvement (grumble).

Well, it's an improvement over what the programming mainstream was doing 
before. Sometimes.

> i mostly agree. the big thing holding me back from python is
> closures. once python gets proper anonymous, lexically scoped
> subroutines things will start to look up.

Does
from __future__ import nested_scopes
do what you want? Sorry, I haven't read the definitions of lexical etc. 
scoping in some years now.

> alternatively, we could all just start using lisp now and skip the
> next decade or so of language "development" ;)

It would be sorely tempting except for the poor library support, which is
frankly a bit of a killer. I don't see much point in using an absolutely 
fantastic language that can't interface to anything.
-- 
Mark, embittered
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