This sounds similar to what SUN was touted a couple of years ago as jini. Plugable autonomous devices and code.
http://wwws.sun.com/software/jini/ Stu On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 22:49, Richard Neal wrote: > To be honest my personally thoughts are in the long run the Desktop is a > dead man walking device this became more obvious as I read up on new > technologies taking shape, for example IPv6 and the network desktop. > For those not in the know one of the advantages of IPv6 over IPv4 is > that suddenly you have this massive increase in IP numbers,I think it > works out at about 1000 IP numbers per square meter of the Planet Earths > surface though Im sure Ive been quoted a higher number. > > So how does this change the game, well for starters no need for IRQ's in > computers for starters every device can now have it's own IP number, > your mouse your hardisk even your display (wherever and whatever it is) > can now become a networked device.When you reach this stage why do you > ask yourself do I need a box at all.I can just go out an buy this small > modular devices and if I need more storage I just go and buy another > storage module same with the CPU. > > Then add to this mix wireless mobility and you start to see some serious > question marks on the logic of a Desktop PC. > > So what will replace it you might say.....well not one device but many, > imagine a whole office full of generic small cheap devices all > communicating to each other with no real need for a desktop due to some > complex but simple rules, think of the ant and how stupid it is as an > individual then think about how a group of these creatures can build > extremely complex structures then you might just be starting to get a > glimpse of what will kill the desktop. > > As for exporting from a central server services, this is also a dead > technology. When you centralize anything you restrict the distribution > of information through the network also this promotes network lag ie we > all have been victim of not enough bandwidth to a service during a busy > period due to to over centralization of said service. Then we end up in > this stupid cycle of making the centralized system bigger and more > bloated and more inefficient .. did someone say XP. > > To me the next great step is being able to buy a small generic device > walk over to my fridge/tv/microwave and registering it with my local > home network as a recognized device no stuffing around with drivers no > going "ooh I better update to the next version of OS annoying as hell > ver4.2" (personally I think in the long run the OS is a dead duck but > thats another story)the device just works and part of buying a new > device is you also get a partial firmware update to the network. > > Yes there will be some need of major and minor device categories and > layering of what is priority data and what is background in the network > but centralization is dead. > > Regards > > Richard Neal > > On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 08:21, Visser, Martin (Sydney) wrote: > > That reminds me... > > > > X-Windows of course was design to have the client application running on > > a central server(s), with the X-server (the display terminal) doing the > > actual display of the application's windows and interfacing with > > keyboard/mouse. (Similar to the say Windows Terminal Services / Citrix > > Metaframe) > > > > Now that *nix is easily deployed to *every* desktop via Linux, this type > > of setup I imagine is going away. With the available CPU on each desktop > > it makes sense from a purely performance reason to deploy the app right > > on the desktop. > > > > That being said, as most Windows sysadmins would say, keeping each > > desktop locked down and under control can prove difficult. Hence the > > move to Windows Terminal Services in many environments. > > > > I was just wondering whether medium to large Linux-only shops have > > looked at/or have deployed Linux using a tradition X-Windows model. That > > is, put a minimal Linux install on each desktop, and run the app on the > > server. This way each Linux desktop can be "locked down" , and the > > desktop environment can be more easily controlled centrally. For > > instance upgrading Star Office is *simply* a matter of upgrading SO on > > the server farm, rather than having to push it out to each desktop. It > > also means that you don't need a 2GHz CPU and 60GB hard disk on each > > desktop, just something with a good network interface and a decent > > CPU/Graphics chip combo to drive the screen. (Or even a fixed config > > X-terminal but I haven't seen these for ages) > > > > What is the current consensus? > > > > Martin Visser > > Network Consultant > > Technology & Infrastructure - Consulting & Integration > > HP Services > > > > 3 Richardson Place > > North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia > > Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670 Mobile *: +61-411-254-513 > > Fax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : martin.visserAThp.com > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken Foskey [mailto:foskey@;optushome.com.au] > > Sent: Wednesday, 13 November 2002 7:59 AM > > To: slug > > Subject: Re: [SLUG] dishing up star office > > > > > > On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 10:51, mick wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I was wondering if it where possible to have a central server for star > > > > > office > > > and have it start up at boot with the server and then be accesible to > > network > > > uses. > > > > > > I have Mandrake 9.0 on the server and another machine and redhat 7.3 > > > on a > > > third. The server does the dhcp thing for internet sharing. > > > > You can run gdm with xdcmp enabled gdm-config. Then you can run the > > whole thing off the second box by > > > > X -query xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (Ip address or name in hosts) > > > > or > > > > X -broadcast > > > > I do this with some crappy computers and one decent server. > > > > KenF > > > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > > -- > > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ > > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Hey if you're going to get mad at me every time I do something * > * stupid, then I guess I'll just have to stop doing stupid things! * > ******************************************************************** > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug-chat -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
