On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 11:54, Richard Hayes wrote:
> With the price of 10/100 Nics retailing at $12 each and a 10/100 8 port switch 
> retailing at $75,  networks are not the issue.  Thinking about what you are 
> trying to achieve is much more important.

Yes, it is true, you can run X across a network. It is technically
feasible and working in some example sites. 

Yes it can be made more economical for big rollouts although hardware
cost is not a big issue with most corporates. I completely understand,
if cost is the main issue why it is used.

I agree with most of what has been said except that you still have a
choke point.

I want to write an Open Office document for the morning. There are
network problems (or even server problems). If I run my apps and desktop
via a server and remote X I'm cactus. True I might need network
resources to write that document but I might not so lack of a network is
not necessarily going to stop me (unless I run X remotely).

There are numerous examples of solitary work I can do if my desktop is
without network for a period of time. 

Now lets multiply say 400 desktops times a morning without a network
running remote X. Thats 1600 hours. A person-year of work is 1800-2000
hours (manufacturing background showing) Hmm.. how cheap and easy was
remote X again? Oh and by the way, the CEO wants a word...

Since desktop PCs are cheap and most businesses are comfortable with
buying the _with hard drives, why not use some of the excellent projects
out there to auto-copy the relevant standard software to each and
auto-config. FAI strings to mind.

Remote X fills a great niche and I'm very glad it's there for us to
offer.

FWIW


Stu


On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 11:54, Richard Hayes wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:46 pm, Ken Foskey wrote:
> > On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 09:55, Stuart Guthrie @ SLUG wrote:
> > > I agree with Luke for a different reason.
> > >
> > > The other problem with centralising X is network bandwidth. All of the
> > > graphics have to pass to and fro which means you need both high
> > > bandwidth low latency and no network problems.
> > >
> > > This makes the network a choke point to be watched and will put off some
> > > people.
> >
> > you might want to look up lbx.
> >
> > 10 Mb is a large network for quite a few PCs so dont underestimate what you
> > can do.
> 
> With the price of 10/100 Nics retailing at $12 each and a 10/100 8 port switch 
> retailing at $75,  networks are not the issue.  Thinking about what you are 
> trying to achieve is much more important.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Richard Hayes
>    
> 
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