On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 11:09:34PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On  9 Oct, To: Sydney Linux Users Group wrote:
> >  I'll persevere with lilo, therefore, but may end up having to 
> >  experiment with grub. 
> 
> Lilo wasn't up to the task - best I could get was to see "Loading
> Fedora .........................." and then a hang.  I guess it needs
> bios support to see the larger drive.
> 
> I tried grub, but forgot to copy the grub files onto the boot partition.
> Naturally, good ol' dumb o' grub didn't report this catastrophic error,
> it just went ahead.  Now I have a system that says:
> Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..OK
> and then hangs.
> 
> Grub really suffers from the old Unix "who cares about usability? / as
> long as users make no mistakes it all works brilliantly" syndrome.
> 
> Anyway, tomorrow I'll rescue again, make a grub directory on the boot
> partition, copy the grub files from fedora across, and try again.
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> God I hate grub.
> </grumble>
> 
> Oh - I forgot to ask.  I'm assuming that unlike lilo, grub *doesn't*
> need the BIOS to be able to read data from the drives.  Is that true?
> 

Waa waa waa.

People would be more likely to be willing to lend assistance to you,
if it wasn't for all the bitching and complaining about supposed
problems in a tool you have used for the first time, and have made some
errors in the configuration of.

Everyone makes mistakes, especially if it's the first time they've used
something. Looking at ways to resolve the problem is much more likely
to reap positive results than bashing the tool.

Lilo and Grub each have their own pluses and minuses, so while it may
take a bit of getting used to Grub's syntax, it tends to be a bit
better at actually making operating systems, especially non-standard ones,
boot. Grub also has a nice console that you can try syntax on at
boot time.

You are correct in saying that Grub does not require the BIOS to read
drives, well, at least in the way I think you mean it.

Also, what is so hard with the Debian text installer? I'm not sure which
screen it is you're having a biff with, but I have a feeling that it's not
a very critical screen in any case.


Regards,

Jon
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