O Plameras wrote: > This is the base salary graduates start with 15 years ago, in > at least two Companies I know. So, graduates base salary > now should be higher than this. 15 years is a lot > of years in the IT industry.
NOPE. Supply and demand. There is an enormous number of IT "graduates" these days, so IMO advertised starting salaries are generally down to what they were 15 years ago. I posted the $15-20K one as it was offered each year for a few years. What hasn't been mentioned yet is "industry" If you are in the pure IT side, then "the best" can get some "spectacular" salaries, but other industries tend not to have salaries too much above industry norm, so the $25-20K was a dogsbody in finance as a start, but some of those companies can reward well. > A number of companies put graduate recruites through a rigorous training > regime of from 3 to > 6 months. This is all around training including programming. > > We must realize, once a graduate or anyone starts working, his/her > salary is reviewed every six months, Make sure you ask about reviews before you start and it is a good idea to have the review dates written into the letter of offer[1]. Being able to ask and still getting an offer is another test of a good place to work. Practically, you have to know you are going to get a salary/wage that provides a lifestyle to establish a good career. You'd probably have HECS to pay off, permant house/unit/etc/living space to establish. Maybe further study. Maybe time to get back into leisure activities that study pushed out. The problem with starting at one place to gaine xperience and moving on is that if you do this a number of times, good companies may no longer consider you. It is also IMO extremely important to be involved in finishing projects. > So, it really depends on the employee himself/herself, rather than being > a graduate by itself. Correct, but it also depends on the company and your immediate and higher manager(s). [1] I had one immediate manager say I wasn't due for review because I'd negotitated a higher starting salary, but then I produced the letter of offer outlining starting salary and and three month review. Again the higher manager wrote a very useful reference when I did leave after 12 months. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au www: http://www.woa.com.au Wombat Outdoor Adventures <Bicycles, Computers, Outdoors, Publishing> "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." Benjamin Franklin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html