On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 09:39:41PM +1100, Ben wrote:
> On 12/3/06, Sonia Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Here's an ethical question for you. I have a middle aged friend who
> >wants to "learn computers"; he's never used computers before (he's a
> >builder). In exchange for some work he's doing for me, I'm going to
> >install everything, get him connected to the net and teach him how to do
> >email, use the internet, write basic documents, and whatever else comes
> >up (eg playing music, watching videos). As a builder he also wants to be
> >able to submit documents to councils - I haven't been able to pin down
> >the format required by councils yet.
> 
> Surely submitting in PDF would be acceptable? If you install the
> proprietary fonts, I think that should be enough of a compromise.
> 
> If he really needs to be working with Office, then he should probably
> be using Windows.
> 
> >Do I install and teach him 'doze/M$ Office or Ubuntu? Or, setup dual
> >boot and teach him both?
> 
> I don't think dual boot would be worth doing, unless you make Windows
> an offline option, just for using Office. This would alleviate some of
> the security concerns as well.
> 
> >Or, install Ubuntu and Cross Over office?
> 
> Probably more pain than it's worth, but I haven't used it. Reading
> about problems and the costs has turned me off the idea.
> 
> >The Linux lover and advocate in me says "Linux, of course", but is that
> >ethical? What I mean is that some time in the future I mightn't be
> >around to help him, then he'll be at the tender mercies of other
> >friends, PC shops, ISP phone support, etc, who probably won't know
> >Linux.
> 
> Internode will support any system with TCP/IP. I assume you'd be
> setting up Firefox and Thunderbird anyway and using a broadband
> connection. So most of the configuration should be the same on any
> platform.
> 
> >If he goes to an internet cafe or reads a newspaper article,
> >he'll also be stuck in a 'doze world. I can point him at SLUG, but is
> >that really helping him?
> 
> Probably not - other than as a resource to find a technician.
> 
> >On the other hand, with Linux he'll get everything extra for free, won't
> >have to learn about nagware/cracks, won't be stuck in the "upgrade
> >treadmill", won't have virus problems, and generally have less
> >problems...
> >
> >I'm not trolling here - this is a serious question - imagine if you were
> >in the same situation with a friend/parent, and weren't going to be
> >around for ever to help them.
> 
> Anyone unfamiliar with computers is going to need some help at some
> point. I think the cost of supporting Ubuntu would be cheaper than the
> cost of Windows + support.
> 
> I'd suggest making a list of numbers to call if he needs support and
> checking rates.
> 
> I'm in a similar situation and I'm installing Ubuntu for the simple
> selfish reason that I don't want to be stuffing around with
> anti-virus/anti-malware stuff.
> 
> Given the huge hardware requirements of Vista you'd even be able to
> save a bit of cash on hardware or have smoother performance by using
> Linux.

I was thinking about buying new hardware and him taking the box to the store,
the young bloke behind the counter saying we don't know linux.

> 
> Ben
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