hmm... well.. I haven't been following this thread, but now that I am.....
saying the following is probably bad politics, but that doesn't make it not true.
I'm the father of 5 and grandfather of 2... censorship does NOTHING to protect
kiddies. Child molesting festers in the dark and dies in the light of day. Kids
have sniggered about smut since Adam used the fig leaf, and survived fine.
What's really dangerous is censorship. Narrow minded people imposing their idea
of what is acceptable, using "protecting the kiddies" as an excuse. There are
much more dangerous things around than porn, much as I personally dislike it.
Censorship is one of them.
Most people I've met who want to censor porn actually are bothered by it
themselves. You can rest assured that kids deal with it quite well. I've never
seen a child agitate to not see porn. My kids saw porn on the net and got over
it after a couple of months. They are now all well balanced adults in strong
relationships. Definitely not damaged by porn. Anyone who thinks kids can't sort
these things out themselves doesn't know much about kids. BTW I'm not talking
about "kiddie porn" where the children are themselves abused in the making of
the porn. That's a whole other thing that has little to do with censorship.
If any sort of blanket censorship is introduced, you can be absolutely certain
that some government (quite possibly this one) will use it inappropriately. If
you doubt this, cf Chinese censorship, or the terrorist laws being used
inappropriately against Iceland by the UK and against Dr.Haneef by our own
beloved leaders. There are endless other examples.
Finally.. if you really want to filter porn (I can't say I blame you), then do
it at home on your own PC. Let *me* decide what I want to filter.
David
(compulsory linux content.. .does the government supplied filtering work on
linux?)
Important PS: This email would probably be censored by any blanket filter. It
mentions porn and kiddies several times.
SMITH GARETH wrote:
Hi there,
I don't think this is a bad idea to censor Home/School internet
connections. I think business connections shouldn't be censored as you
can setup your own filtering.
Optus already block ports 138, 80 and 25 on home connections why not
block some more content.
I think censorship is a great idea. Young children need to be censored
from harmful content. They don't need to be exposed to potentially
damaging websites and now with internet on a mobiles, kids are being
exposed to harmful content that they shouldn't see.
I think home internet plans should be filtered and business plans can be
unfiltered.
That way everyone are happy.
China filters the whole internet to the country and this works for them
so it's feasable to do this technically. Censoring the whole internet is
stupid but censoring HOMES and Schools is a great idea.
"firmly committed to a mandatory clean-feed internet to Australian
homes, schools and public computers"
Our internet connections are already filtered and intercepted so why not
filter the extra CRAP like PORN out.
If you want it get a business connection.
Gareth Smith
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Glen Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:50 AM
To: Rev Simon Rumble; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia
Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Kyle wrote:
Is this possibly for real?
Yes. Our political overlords realise it will cost a fortune, will
slow down our internets and won't work. They're being successfully
wedged by the shrill wowsers like Hetty Johnstone that being
anti-filtering is equivalent to being pro kiddy porn.
Hi Simon,
I think that fairly describes the last lot in government.
This lot seem to be serious. That are being wilfully blind to the
effects on reliability and performance. They still think of the Internet
as the Interweb, forgetting about the huge amount of hidden traffic
carrying phone calls, building global scientific instruments, and so on.
Even from the perspective of the Interweb the proposal is stupid.
Cheers, Glen
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