[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21/10/2008 03:13:42 PM:

>  Hi there,
> 
> Maybe I missed something but the censorship on the website on the
> original post was to be applied to "Australian homes, schools and public
> computers." 
> 
> If you're a techno head and want to view an UNCENSORED content get an
> UNCENSORED CONNECTION. EG a business connection and censor it yourself. 
> 
Since business connections are always more expensive, that only gives the 
upper class this option, everyone else may have to live with a filtered 
feed.


> Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites
> from their mobile phone?
> 
Allow the PARENT to decide if the child needs internet access on their 
phone AT ALL.
Seriously, what child NEEDS internet on their mobile phone?

> The internet web content is already censored!!! But we don't have
> control over it. If your under the impression that the internet is
> uncensored you need to realise that it already is.
> 
> Illigal content like online gambling and terrorist information is
> already blocked.
> 
Neither is censored, and in my opinion neither should be censored. If I 
want to (in theory) learn how to make a bomb, who says I don't have that 
right?

> Schools and public computers are already censored with strict content
> filtering policies. Why not filter it at the ISP and not at the client
> site.
> 
> Even charaty organistations don't have time or the money to have an IT
> admin just managing their content on the client side. 
> 
> LET THE ISP'S MANAGE THE FILTERING. I know I don't want to pay for the
> download of a site that ends up being blocked by my content filter. We
> are we paying for downloads that we don't want. 
> 
So you are happy to be told what you can and cannot see? What if your ISP 
has a political view and decides to filter our certain political views?

> Just think of an ISP level net nanny managing your multiply internet
> connections. I think this would be great managing your internet
> connetions on any device you have. I know I don't want to download
> something that will be filted. I DON'T WANT PORN. Why shold I pay for
> the download of a an PORN ADD that I don't want.
> 
You can block it. You do realise that most censoring applications REJECT 
the connection, so you pay for VERY LITTLE if any downloads.

> By default the SEX companies shouldn't be able to propogate PORN to our
> children by default.
> 
Just like walking through kings cross at night with your children. 
(Although I understand they have cleaned it up a lot, but I hope you 
understand my meaning)

> I used to manage content filters for multiple businesses and managing
> client side content filters are annoying. I don't want to do this but
> the reality is we need content filtering!!
> 
Who needs it? I certainly DO NOT! especially if it is FORCED on me, 
without my concent, and without my COMPLETE knowledge of what is being 
blocked.

OK, Lets look at this slightly differently....
Any child that is determined enough to view porn, Internet Censorship or 
not, WILL GET PORN!
They may use encrypted bittorrent, or another method, but its not hard to 
get around content filters like these.

Internet Censorship should START and END in the home, and the best thing 
the government can do to help this is EDUCATE the population on the best 
methods to do this.
My favorite two are:
1. Place the computer in a public spot, like the living room, or dining 
room, so the children fear getting caught.
2. Regardless of if you do or not, let you children know that you log all 
website connections, but trust them enough to not have to look at those 
logs.

Social problems (and this is a social problem) CANNOT EVER be solved 
simply with technology. It requires a mix of Education, Technology and 
persiverance.

Regards,

Scott

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