Hi there, Maybe I missed something but the censorship on the website on the original post was to be applied to "Australian homes, schools and public computers."
If you're a techno head and want to view an UNCENSORED content get an UNCENSORED CONNECTION. EG a business connection and censor it yourself. Whouldn't it be great if the ISP provided an content filter at the ISP level where you can manage your own content. You login and unrestrict the content you want to view. Now tell me how do you stop your children from connecting to porn sites from their mobile phone? The internet web content is already censored!!! But we don't have control over it. If your under the impression that the internet is uncensored you need to realise that it already is. Illigal content like online gambling and terrorist information is already blocked. Schools and public computers are already censored with strict content filtering policies. Why not filter it at the ISP and not at the client site. Even charaty organistations don't have time or the money to have an IT admin just managing their content on the client side. LET THE ISP'S MANAGE THE FILTERING. I know I don't want to pay for the download of a site that ends up being blocked by my content filter. We are we paying for downloads that we don't want. Just think of an ISP level net nanny managing your multiply internet connections. I think this would be great managing your internet connetions on any device you have. I know I don't want to download something that will be filted. I DON'T WANT PORN. Why shold I pay for the download of a an PORN ADD that I don't want. By default the SEX companies shouldn't be able to propogate PORN to our children by default. I used to manage content filters for multiple businesses and managing client side content filters are annoying. I don't want to do this but the reality is we need content filtering!! Why should schools pay for the bandwidth of content that just gets stripped out by your content filter anyway. Gareth -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rev Simon Rumble Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Fortress .... err Firewall Australia This one time, at band camp, SMITH GARETH wrote: > I think censorship is a great idea. Young children need to be censored > from harmful content. They don't need to be exposed to potentially > damaging websites and now with internet on a mobiles, kids are being > exposed to harmful content that they shouldn't see. 1. It doesn't work. 2. Who decides what is appropriate and what isn't? "Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it." - Attributed to Mark Twain The task of deciding what is appropriate for children is the job of the parents. All filtering systems have faults -- over or under blocking, so aren't a perfect solution. A much better option is to have the computer in a public location. > I think home internet plans should be filtered and business plans can > be unfiltered. Feel free to install whatever filtering system you would like on YOUR internet connection. The government even provides the software for free. Me, I'll stick to my own thanks! > China filters the whole internet to the country and this works for > them No, it doesn't work. What it blocks is trivial access to sites like CNN, BBC and ABC. A few obvious porn sites (playboy, penthouse) are blocked, while the rest are open. It is trivially easy to get around the censorship -- I set up just such a system for a friend when he lived in Shanghai. How the Chinese firewall works is through fear of being noticed. My friend was okay running a VPN to my server because, as a westerner, he would have been deported. A local would be locked up in a prison for ideological offenders. This is the model we want for Australia? > so it's feasable to do this technically. Censoring the whole internet > is stupid but censoring HOMES and Schools is a great idea. Sure, a great idea. Except it doesn't work. Internet Filtering - It's like WorkChoices for your computer: You never asked for it, you've repeatedly said you don't want it, but the Government is determined to ram it down your throat, all the while smirking, and telling you what a great favour they're doing you. -- Rev Simon Rumble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Because nerds travel too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ If the designers of X-windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same prinicples -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. -- From the programming notebooks of a heretic, 1990. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
