On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:15 +0800, Chris Henry wrote: > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Today Debian > > > > Still trying. - Update. - Can Help? > > > > Singnet: > > Debian 4.0r3 during install ask for location. Singapore of course > > closest seems like a good choice. http://mirror.nus.edu.sg/Debian etch. > > Stuck NUS doesn't seem to be working. > > > > Starhub: > > Debian 4.0r3 during install ask for location. Singapore of course > > closest seems like a good choice. http://mirror.nus.edu.sg/Debian etch. > > Stuck NUS doesn't seem to be working. > > > > Did you even try any of our other suggestions? Usually when something > doesn't work, we try alternatives. I (and some other) suggested the > usage of ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian for Debian. > > If that does not work to, please give us some concrete stuffs to > analyse. For example, I'm not sure what do you mean but 'doesn't seem > to be working'. Is it that you can't access the server (improbable, > you should at least be able to access the server; otherwise, your > problem will be with NIC/network setup) or whether you can't get > specific packages (in which case, try alternatives, pacnet definitely > have all packages). > > Regards, > Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------- > Did you even try any of our other suggestions? Usually when something > doesn't work, we try alternatives. I (and some other) suggested the > usage of ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/debian for Debian. > > > First of all thanks for giving me an absolutely normal reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------- I've tried all of these suggestions. Fine for me but I don't need to handhold users hands for something that should already have been resolved. Is this your business model in Singapore.... ------------------------------------------------------------------ I had very specific reasons for asking for help and in the manner that I did. First. I wanted to find out if their was any real support for Debian/Ubuntu in Singapore. Second. Would/could the LUGS people provide the correct solution? I don't fix problems for end users by giving them difficult work a round. Remember I'm not giving them a LIVE CD and telling them to try it out. I'm installing it correctly and correctly using Singapore as the location. Would/could the LUGS people provide the correct solution? The correct solution if you really care about Linus/Debian is to get the mirror working so that the customer/end user has the correct kind of experience. First time. An experience that is possible with Linux and makes it so valuable and an experience that is not possible with Microsoft. Bad mirrors. I don't wonder that people in Singapore don't accept Linux. As regards Ubuntu I provided LUGS users with routing information, by mtr at this point what more do you need? For Debian I ping the server and get a response. Mtr does not work. Apt-get does not work. Both Starhub and Singnet. I suspect the server is not up. Note: Firewall disabled. /sbin/iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT. /sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT. /sbin/iptables -F. My computer is right on the edge of the Internet. Normally I would talk to the administrator of the mirror? I guess in Singapore he or she must be a recluse or something. I'd like to find out what kind of traffic they experience when things are working right so that pricing for an alternative mirror could be determined. A prestigious job like hosting Debian or Ubuntu requires four to five 9's of reliability for the server. Shouldn't be hard. For the Internet provider. Three 9's? Haven't Singnet and Starhub agreed to give at least three 9's of reliability on these services. Finally. Remember potential students all around the region install Ubuntu/Debian from the Internet. So far the institution providing the mirror in Singapore looks like a good institution to avoid going to. Linux or not. Thanks, Carlton Lee _______________________________________________ Slugnet mailing list [email protected] http://wiki.lugs.org.sg/LugsMailingListFaq http://www.lugs.org.sg/mailman/listinfo/slugnet
