Roy Ong wrote:
On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 17:09 +0800, Tom Goh wrote:
Please count me in and see my recent post, its rather long winded :)

Hi Tom,

Read your post and since its Sunday morning, I'll try and avoid typing a
long one as well. :P

I joined LUGS while "the mess" was still on-going. Life was never easy
for the ExCO as we had to deal with a number of issues with the most
important being the clearing of the debts that LUGS had incurred from
some failed event. Clearing the debts was placed on priority. Based on
the last information that I have seen, LUGS should now be debt-free but
I will leave the official word to come from the Treasurer. Add to that,
the messy state of affairs with the Registry of Societies as AGMS and
Annual Returns were not filed for years etc. etc.
In any case, these are all water under the bridge now. LUGS NEEDS A NEW
EXCO and the problem that I see, which was evident from the first day
that I joined LUGS was the fact that individuals are more active on the
mailing lists than they are in person. As such, all the "traffic",
comments and ideas on the mailing lists are never transcribed into
physical actions.

I agree, there is always a lot of talk but nothing ever happens. "Most" people just plainly don't want to take the initial step and responsibility.

I really wish I had a solution to this but I don't.

From my perspective, I want to move in baby steps and get to a point where people do not think LUGS is dead. By having SLMG and LUGS recognize each other we can cross market each other and continue with our monthly meetings. It provides a unified front Linux in Singapore. This in itself is rather simple to do and what Michael has been calling for a long time.

Second is the exco size, it is too large and we will never get enough people to take responsibility. 3 people is relatively easy to find and an additional 6 to have no responsibility except voting on important issues, i think that will be easier to find as they will have very little commitment.

 So
right now, for all the comments (justified or otherwise) made about
LUGS, we just want to see the names being put out on the list. I'll
continue to keep track of it and I *WILL* request and arrange a meeting
and call for an AGM which will officially elect the new LUGS EXCO.
Thereafter the new EXCO can ring in the changes as required and we can
bring in SLMG/FOSA as you and Michael has suggested.
We need individuals to put down their names whom are willing to serve.
Its simple but we don't see enough names. That's the problem!

Well, so far we have 4 people, hopefully at least 3 will be willing to take up one of the 3 posts, I know I am willing to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

01. Yong Han (Web)
02. Billy
03. Tom Goh
04. Ray (Web/Graphics/Guardian)
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