I can see where it would not be a bad idea to put it on both the app and the airbridge. Even though it seems the app does not have these problems it would not hurt to have a watchdog there in case of that 3a.m. problem that can be fixed by this. Most customers would not even notice it needed rebooted. As long as it is a selectable option it couldnt hurt anything. You could take it a step further and allow us to set how many times to attemp reboot without getting associated and the amount of time it waited to do it in between attempts.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan O'Bra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > Another .02... > > I believe the spirit of the "watchdog reboot" is that "shit happens"... > i.e., there are kernel bugs/latch states in the radio ASIC, whatever > that can't be predicted or were never exposed in testing. The watchdog > accepts this and attempts to provide a last ditch attempt at fixing. > > Also (and I'm no expert)... I think it' s based on no data (and not lack > of association) because the logic is much easier (just check a buffer) > and it can therefore be checked by a timer or something else that is not > so dependent on the kernel (i.e. has a higher probability of working > with a crashed kernel.) > > > > > David Blood wrote: > > >Actually I agree with Brendan. One of the units I have to get replaced will > >associate and have excellent signal strength and Quality yet not pass > >traffic to/Through/past my backhaul. This would be a canidate for a reboot. > >(thought taht would not help in this case as a reboot does not fix the > >problem.) > > > > > >The power supplys are all wa-12a12u I can plug in a older total and not have > >the problem with the same cable a power supply. > > > > > >Kind Regards, > > > >David > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alex Wong > >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:09 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > >Good, this info is helpful. But the logic should better based on if no > >association (not Data) for >=5, then reboot. Thanks. > > > >Alex > >sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brendan O'Bra > >Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:38 AM > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > >FWIW, this is implemented on Lucent (ap500, ap1000,rg1000) hardware as > >the "watchdog reboot timer". It has saved our collective a$$ on many > >occasions. The logic is, "if no data for >=5 minutes, reboot" > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:16 PM > >Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > > > > > > > > > >>OK, after so many votes I will put your suggestion to the development > >>team for consideration. Thanks for the suggestion. > >> > >>Alex > >>sB Tech Support > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > >>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 6:08 AM > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > >> > >> > >>I have 2 units down right now that have been up for weeks and I know a > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>simple reboot will bring it back online. Have it in the firmware where > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>it will reboot 3 times thats it. If it doesnt come back after 3 times > >>you know there is a bigger problem than just a lockup. If it is a real > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>hard thing to do then I can understand it. But if it's not that big of > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>a deal to put this option in there and make it optional then it would > >>be a great solution for some of these mystery problems. > >> > >>Please consider adding this option. > >>Jerry > >> > >>It just looks better for it to fix itself than to have to call the > >>user(or then call me) so that I can tell them to power cycle the unit. > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:16 PM > >>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>>But if there is no signal, the unit keep rebooting??? So it is not > >>>that simple as what we want it to be. We have to find the roof cause > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>>of the problem and tackle it. It is only a small percent having such > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > >>>issue and the possibility is either bad power supply or flash > >>>corruption. > >>> > >>>Another area is to look at environment and the installation proper > >>>especially for outdoor units. Pls see our Ideal Installation Guide. > >>>http://www.smartbridges.com/new/support/ideal_install.php > >>> > >>>Alex > >>>sB Tech Support > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-----Original Message----- > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter > >>>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:42 AM > >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > >>> > >>> > >>>I see the same problems. Thats why I suggested they add in the > >>>firmware that the radio reboot itself after it locks or looses > >>>signal over 5 min. I know it would help in my situation. Usually a > >>>simple reboot fixes everything. > >>> > >>>Jerry > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "George M. Walden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 3:14 PM > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Ditto, on the Ethernet issue w/ sB2100. We have had 3 customers > >>>>that > >>>> > >>>> > >>>needed > >>> > >>> > >>>>replaced (as of now) 3 times each (total of 9 units).....all flaky > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>>units were from the last shipment. Or, should I say, from the > >>>>first > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>batch of units that made it to the USA from sB's new contract OEM. > >>>> > >>>>-George M. Walden > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>on 6/10/03 1:19 PM, Scott Damron at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Yes, > >>>>>My last one would not see the AP and the ethernet and wireless > >>>>>lights would go out when you did a search for wireless networks. > >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>It > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>would see the network when you rebooted, but when you tried to > >>>>>assoc. it, it would again loose both lights and freeze. > >>>>>Luckily, we > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>purchased them from electro comm and they RMA'd them without > >>>>>trouble. > >>>>> > >>>>>Scott > >>>>> > >>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Blood > >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:52 AM > >>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] org > >>>>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] trouble with units. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>With my last shipment of sb2100 I am having terrible issues. I > >>>>>don't > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>believe that it is the configuration as I have set up many of > >>>>>these and have not had these problems in the past. > >>>>> > >>>>>Issues. > >>>>> > >>>>>Ethernet port is flaky. Sometimes it works and sometime it > >>>>>doesn't. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>No distance is not an issue on the ethernet cable. All case > >>>>>less than 50 ft and in one case less than 5 ft. It seems to > >>>>>happen when > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>I > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>make any configuration change. I can power cycle the unit to > >>>>>get it > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>to come back. > >>>>> > >>>>>When I try to use site survey to list availabe APs I get > >>>>>nothing. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>When it does work then several aps show up. > >>>>> > >>>>>The air bridges lose associations and then wil not reassociate > >>>>>with out a reboot. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Anyone else having these issues with the latest shipments? > >>>>> > >>>>>Kind Regards, > >>>>> > >>>>>David > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: > >>>>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>(in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > >>>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>smartBridges > >>> > >>> > >>>>><yournickname> > >>>>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > >>>>>unsubscribe > >>>>>smartBridges) > >>>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>>> > >>>> > >>>smartBridges <yournickname> > >>> > >>> > >>>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > >>>>unsubscribe > >>>> > >>>> > >>>smartBridges) > >>> > >>> > >>>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>(in > >>> > >>> > >>>the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > >>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >>> > >>>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>> > >>> > >>smartBridges <yournickname> > >> > >> > >>>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >>> > >>> > >>smartBridges) > >> > >> > >>>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >>smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > >> > >> > > > > > > > >>the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > >>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >> > >>The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >>To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >> > >> > >smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > >>To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >> > >> > >smartBridges) > > > > > >>Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > >the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > >smartBridges <yournickname> > >To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe > >smartBridges) > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > >The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > >To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > >Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://198.63.203.6
