(As clarification, I'm not "setting" the ESSID....I'm doing a site survey and letting the AB find the AP (logan-wt) and associating with it.)
Sam On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Sam wrote: > Alex, > > I know it may seem hard to believe, but this is exactly what is happening > to my customers. And in three of the four cases I guarantee you the > customer is not changing the ESSID from logan-wt to the gibberish that I > find when I arrive on site. And the fourth person, while I wouldn't bet my > life on it, I'd bet a considerable amount of money he's not changing it > either. (When I dropped into a DOS prompt he thought his monitor was going > out since part of the screen turned black). So I am closer to 100% than > 99% certain that he's not changing it. > > > One is using Windows 95 (I know...supposedly not supported but it does > work. I have three customers using it, and the other two are fine, but > going off a different AP. The simplemonitor software won't run on it, but > the airbridge works with it.) So I know she's not changing the ESSID. I > set it for her using my laptop. The firmware is 1.50. > > One is using Millenium. She doesn't have the SB software on her PC. So I > know she isn't changing the ESSID. Again, I set this with my laptop, > firmware 1.50. > > One is using Windows 98 SE. He has the software but doesn't have a clue > how to open it or log into the AB. He also hae 1.50 firmware. > > And the last guy is using a Linksys router on a Macintosh network. He > obvisouly doesn't have the software on there either. So he's not changing > the ESSID. I had 1.50 firmware on him, but have backreved him to 1.43. > We're monitoring that to see if that fixes it. (This guy is using and ABO. > The other three are using airbridge indoor units. > > All four of these people are on the same access point. None of the people > on my other access point have ever had this happen. All of these people > have great LQ and RSSI. (People with far less LQ and RSSI are not seeing > this.) > > If I have to roll back to any of these sites again I'll take the 1.43 > firmware with me and backrev it to see if that's what's causing it. I > doubt that it is however as their are customers on my other AP that are > using 1.50 and not seeing this. I'm thinking it's got to be something > inside the indoor airbridges that cause this. > > If the customers were to power off their airbridges each night, that > shouldn't hurt anything, should it? Should I tell them to leave them on > all the time? (Many of them might, but they aren't going to leave their > PCs on. And i wouldn't think they'd need to leave the airbridges on > either, but I thought I'd ask. > > Thanks > Sam > > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, sB Tech Support wrote: > > > We do not see the logic or any possibility that the ESSID could be > > changed by itself without anybody changing its conifg, either possible > > of hacking or the security being compromised. But still we will do a > > research on this. > > > > About the inactivity for 5 minutes, after the client devices associated > > with an access point, it monitors the signal strength and the traffic in > > order to keeps the link going. When there is no traffic passed between > > the client devices and the access point for more than 5 minutes, the > > client device becomes idle but REMAIN associated. Once the traffic is > > kicked in, it will "wake up" again and start talking to the access > > point. > > > > During this re-initiation process with the access point if the RSSI and > > Link Quality is not sufficient enough to establish the link it will > > disassociate with the access point and search for a better signal, but > > eventually will associate to the access point. > > > > Alex > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shoffman > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:29 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: RE: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and > > Lossofassociation > > > > > > Alex, > > > > This is what we were told before. We monitored the association from the > > > > Cisco AP. As I stated, we did see it dis-associate, and y'all > > (SmartBridge tech Support) confirmed that inactivity for a period of 5 > > minutes will cause the unit to disassociate. > > > > The ESSIS was always hard-coded, and the BSSID was set both to 0000000 > > (however many) and with Hard code of the BSSID for the AP. Issue > > persisted in either case. So we implemented the pings, and that cleared > > > > up the problem. We are now doing SNMP monitoring of the untis and have > > sinced turned off the pings (the SNMP gets are keeping the connection > > alive...) > > > > Scott > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 19:36:26 +0800 > > Subject: RE: RE: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss > > ofassociation > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > When client computer turned on, how do you tell the association is not > > > > > there? If the TXRX LED is solid, it is indicating associated. Can > > > check them out of happen again? Also, do you hardcode the ESSID, or > > > set as ANY? If it is any, the airBridge can associate to any AP. When > > > the problem happen, does anybody does the restore to default causing > > > the ESSID to ANY (unless you have used simpleDeploy for default > > > config). > > > > > > If the problem persists, please let us know and I would like you to > > > send > > > to us directly for analysis. > > > > > > Alex > > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shoffman > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:49 AM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: Fwd: RE: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss > > > ofassociation > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > Agreed on power supply, especially in light of the Onion report. We > > > have 50 installed from that batch you guys are dealing with. We > > > haven't had any "total" dead, but one may have a heat problem. > > > (replacing it today... stays good for about 60 minutes, then looses > > > association. > > > Restart, nothing. Turn it down.. wait about 10 minutes.. turn-up, > > > bang, > > > back on air.. for about 1 hour or so... (some times shorter). We > > > will > > > do some in house checking before we attempt an RMA...) > > > > > > But back to the original, We have done our best (except putting a UPS > > > or > > > > > > larger power supply on the power shot)to clean up the power, but given > > > > > it > > > is a rural install, power may not be totally clean. But what leads > > us > > > to our theory is that this only happened when the client computer was > > > turned off at night (or during the day). The AB was never pwoered > > > off, > > > > > > but when clients computer turned on.. Association was not there. We > > > go out and reset the jibberish in the ESSID, and walla, back up and > > > happy. > > > > > > Again, another point leading us to believe our theory is that since we > > > started the pining (3 weeks ago) we have never heard from client again > > > > > (i.e. its staying solid...) So... go figure. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Alex Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:17:51 +0800 > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss of > > > association > > > > > > It could be the noisy power source or some spike that cause the memory > > > > > to corrupt. Check if there is proper grounding and clean power supply. > > > > > > Alex > > > sB Tech Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 3:04 PM > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss of > > > association > > > > > > > > > No, this isn't what happened. There is no software on these computers > > > for the person to be able to log into the airbridge with. I have to > > > take my laptop to them and login to the AB and reassociate it myself. > > > > > > Can anyone at SB shed light on this? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 23 > > > Jun 2003, phantam wrote: > > > > > > > I HAVE seen this whenever I do a remote essid change and it fails, > > > > maybe the text isn't being sent properly but in this case it messes > > > up > > > > > > > quite often. Once it messed up and I could swear it was screwed up > > > but > > > > > > > they reset it and it associated properly I don't know if it just was > > > > > > sent properly but not associated or it's a messed up command that > > > > the unit has to be rebooted after a essid change and it doesn't do > > > > it properly. > > > > > > > > What could this be seeni? > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 1:32 AM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > One thing I don't do, is install any utility that allows them to get > > > > > > involved in any way with the radio gear. The less they know the > > > better > > > > > > > we all are. Of course we always retain ownership of the radio. I > > > > even do that with the gateway router in most cases, even though they > > > do > > > > buy that from me. > > > > In most cases all we have to do is tell them to reboot their pc, > > > gateway > > > > router, or radio when they stop working. > > > > George > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Tom Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 9:28 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss of > > > > association > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have you seen an AP with the ESSID of ZUCimkXZ while doing any > > > > > installs or war driving? Do these customers who had issues have > > > > > access to > > > > simpleMonitor > > > > > and if so are they the type who might have played with the radio > > > > > in an attempt to "fix" the connection? > > > > > > > > > > I have one who thinks they know more about our system than we do > > > and > > > > > > > > they are always causing me issues by screwing around with all > > > > > their settings. They are not using anything from smartBridge, but > > > > > another radio I no > > > > longer > > > > > use. I guess I don't charge enough to go clean up their messes > > > > > when they > > > > get > > > > > good and drunk. > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 23:28 > > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Weird Characters in ESSID and Loss of > > > association > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tonight I went to two of my customer's homes to re-associate > > > their > > > > > > > > > airbridges. When I got there the ESSID had changed from logan-wt > > > > > > > > to something like ZUCimkXZ and the BSSID was all zeros. Earlier > > > > > > this > > > > weekend > > > > > > another customer with an airbridge outdoor had the same thing > > > > > > happen. > > > > His > > > > > > ESSID changed from logan-wt to some jumble of letters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Got any idea what is causing this to happen? There are about 30 > > > > > > people > > > > on > > > > > > that AP (logan-wt). All three of these people are on the > > > > > > logan-wt AP. As far as I know they are the only three that lost > > > > > > association, but this is the third time in a month or so that > > > it's > > > > > > > > > happened. Are these defective Airbridges? Their RSSI is > 50% > > > > > > and the Link quality is close to 80%. > > > > They > > > > > > are at most six miles from the AP, and one of them is only a > > > > > > couple of miles away from the AP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Should I get an rma for these or do you think there is something > > > > > > > > else causing this? They are all using 1.50 of the firmware, > > > though > > > > > > > > > I did have the man with the outdoor airbridge backrev to 1.43 to > > > > > > > > see if that will help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Sam Morris, Owner > > > > > > Loganet Internet Service > > > > > > Logan IA > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > > > > > unsubscribe > > > > > smartBridges) > > > > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > > smartBridges <yournickname> > > > > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type > > > unsubscribe > > > > smartBridges) > > > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (in > > > > > > > the body type unsubscribe > > > > smartBridges) > > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > > > > the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > > > > the body type unsubscribe > > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > > > > the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > > > > the body type unsubscribe > > > smartBridges) > > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe > > smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in > > the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges > > <yournickname> > > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > > > > > > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List > To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges > <yournickname> > To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) > Archives: http://198.63.203.6 > The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://198.63.203.6
