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Yes, but does that mean that anyone that is between the APPOs would be covered, i.e. customers, clients?
 
Dennis
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products

If you have one aPPO set up as an access point, then other aPPO's in client bridge mode can connect to it. Is this what you are talking about?
 
By the way, the archives are at:

http://198.63.203.6

Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products

Just a side note..  I was told that I could use the AirPoint Pro Totals in both bridge and access point mode at the same time, is this not the case? 
 
Dennis
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products

I was new at this not too long ago, so here is my advice...
 
Don't get me wrong, Dennis - if you have the patience, go ahead and offer service to anyone who will provide you with positive net income. I am just saying that I prefer to go after bigger fish. This has it's risks, too (bigger customers mean if one goes away, it is a bigger hit).
 
As for your specific needs, you have to do some serious reading, my friend. It takes a lot of research, and you would be well served to read the archives from this list and the WISP list (everything).
 
Let's point you in the right direction...
 
1. You can get bandwidth limiting hardware/software. There are people (some on this list) who can SELL you a solution. Otherwise, do some serious research and build it yourself, but don't expect anyone to set up your system for free. There are hundreds of messages about this subject on the WISP list - read the archives.
2. I think you are talking about using the airPoint Total as you access point. If you want to do 360 degrees with a single radio, you will need an airPoint Pro Outdoor with an external omnidirectional antenna. This will limit the distance to something shorter than you can reach with other antenna types and may exclude potential customers (like those close to the tower base). You might choose three airPoint Pro Outdoor radios, each with an external 120 degree sector antenna. There are many other options, like sectorized omnis, splitters, and yes, even 12 aP Totals. Each option has plusses and minuses. Read the archives, and do your research.
3. Don't expect to get everything from the sB website itself (which is a marketing tool, as it should be). You can, however, download the user guides and application notes for every product they sell. Read everything - twice. Repeat.
4. I assume your bridge to your NOC is something other than sB, and probably 5.8. If not, you have to watch out for potential interference issues.
5. A POE Switch/Hub?? Each sB outdoor product comes with a POE adapter called the PowerShot. Again - website, manual, read, repeat.
6. Weatherpoof box? Depends on your specific application. If you read the archives, you will find links to pictures of installs - very helpful.
7. You can go from tower to tower from NY to LA if you want to. How to do it is another question, and will depend on each individual situation.
 
Don't get discouraged, but this stuff ain't easy. Pore over manuals, white papers, and archives. Look at application diagrams. Check out the competitor's gear (good reference to know what is possible out there - sometimes you have to mix technologies to get the job done).
 
Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products

Jason,
 
Thanks for the help.  You have answered alot of questions for me.  As far as the Bandwidth per user, does anyone have any suggestions on how to limit this.  I'm sure that most people are setting up T1s and letting 30-50 users run off of that T1.  What about if you are running a T3 and bouncing the signal across three towers? Are there no bandwidth constraints that users have? 
 
I understand how not to deal with customers that can't pay for the equipment.  That does make sences to me. 
 
I know everyone tells me to get to there website, but unfortunlly it does not tell you a great deal on the technology itself and capabilities of the system.  Maybe this is cause of there new enhanced website.   Nor does it tell how these units to be setup.
 
I have a tower up, with one access point.  This point is also running bridge to recive signal from my main network and recive whatever bandwidth that I need.  I want to cover a full 360 from this tower, from the specs I see its only 28 degress.  Does this mean to cover 360 I need 12 units to cover a full 360 radius? 

Also, how are you connecting APs.  I have found some people are using a POE Switch/Hub?  What about weather, I assuming that everyone is putting a weatherproof encloser on the tower somewhere with the switch? 
 
Just a FYI, I was planning on feeding several more towers wwith AP to AP functionality.  This is possable correct?
 
Dennis
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products

 
Do the AirPoints have a bandwidth limitation setting per user.. I.E. I want each user to have 256 or 512k bandwidth only.
 
No.
 
Radius authencation, is there one built in, i.e. do I have to use my own radius server?
 
Yes, your own.
 
What kind of range can I get out of a AirPoint Total?  The prices I am getting is around $380 per unit, is this correct?
 
20 miles + (did you read the specs and sB website?). Where are you getting them for $380, and what qty?
 
What about installations on customer homes?  I can find the AirBridge Totals for a little under $300. What else is everyone using to install these? 
 
I generally use a crescent wrench, drill, and some other tools depending on the install. Electrical tape, suntan lotion, and Gatorade also come in handy.
 
What kind of warrenties are with these products?
 
 
If I wanted to get a 360 radius from my tower of 150 foot, how many access points would I need?
 
Need: 1, Want: ?, need more info
 
What kind of site survey equipment is best and simplest to use?
 
Depends on personal preference. I like to bring along my portable custom built rig.
 
Anyone want to share what they are doing to help offset customer costs of equipment?
 
Nothing. I don't deal with people who can't pay for the install and equip costs - these are the same folks who want 1.5Mbps for $20/month. Although, I do eat the cost of electrical tape, suntan lotion, and other supplies.
 
Thanx in advance,
 
Your welcome.

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