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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products


Jason,

Maybe one of the issues I have is that I don't konw where the archives are ! 

Dennis

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jason 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products


I was new at this not too long ago, so here is my advice...

Don't get me wrong, Dennis - if you have the patience, go ahead and offer
service to anyone who will provide you with positive net income. I am just
saying that I prefer to go after bigger fish. This has it's risks, too (bigger
customers mean if one goes away, it is a bigger hit).

As for your specific needs, you have to do some serious reading, my friend. It
takes a lot of research, and you would be well served to read the archives from
this list and the WISP list (everything).

Let's point you in the right direction...

1. You can get bandwidth limiting hardware/software. There are people (some on
this list) who can SELL you a solution. Otherwise, do some serious research and
build it yourself, but don't expect anyone to set up your system for free. There
are hundreds of messages about this subject on the WISP list - read the
archives.
2. I think you are talking about using the airPoint Total as you access point.
If you want to do 360 degrees with a single radio, you will need an airPoint Pro
Outdoor with an external omnidirectional antenna. This will limit the distance
to something shorter than you can reach with other antenna types and may exclude
potential customers (like those close to the tower base). You might choose three
airPoint Pro Outdoor radios, each with an external 120 degree sector antenna.
There are many other options, like sectorized omnis, splitters, and yes, even 12
aP Totals. Each option has plusses and minuses. Read the archives, and do your
research.
3. Don't expect to get everything from the sB website itself (which is a
marketing tool, as it should be). You can, however, download the user guides and
application notes for every product they sell. Read everything - twice. Repeat.
4. I assume your bridge to your NOC is something other than sB, and probably
5.8. If not, you have to watch out for potential interference issues.
5. A POE Switch/Hub?? Each sB outdoor product comes with a POE adapter called
the PowerShot. Again - website, manual, read, repeat.
6. Weatherpoof box? Depends on your specific application. If you read the
archives, you will find links to pictures of installs - very helpful.
7. You can go from tower to tower from NY to LA if you want to. How to do it is
another question, and will depend on each individual situation.

Don't get discouraged, but this stuff ain't easy. Pore over manuals, white
papers, and archives. Look at application diagrams. Check out the competitor's
gear (good reference to know what is possible out there - sometimes you have to
mix technologies to get the job done).

Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 4:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products


Jason,

Thanks for the help.  You have answered alot of questions for me.  As far as the
Bandwidth per user, does anyone have any suggestions on how to limit this.  I'm
sure that most people are setting up T1s and letting 30-50 users run off of that
T1.  What about if you are running a T3 and bouncing the signal across three
towers? Are there no bandwidth constraints that users have?  

I understand how not to deal with customers that can't pay for the equipment.
That does make sences to me.  

I know everyone tells me to get to there website, but unfortunlly it does not
tell you a great deal on the technology itself and capabilities of the system.
Maybe this is cause of there new enhanced website.   Nor does it tell how these
units to be setup.

I have a tower up, with one access point.  This point is also running bridge to
recive signal from my main network and recive whatever bandwidth that I need.  I
want to cover a full 360 from this tower, from the specs I see its only 28
degress.  Does this mean to cover 360 I need 12 units to cover a full 360
radius?  

Also, how are you connecting APs.  I have found some people are using a POE
Switch/Hub?  What about weather, I assuming that everyone is putting a
weatherproof encloser on the tower somewhere with the switch?  

Just a FYI, I was planning on feeding several more towers wwith AP to AP
functionality.  This is possable correct?

Dennis



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jason 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Questions on SmartBridge Products



Do the AirPoints have a bandwidth limitation setting per user.. I.E. I want each
user to have 256 or 512k bandwidth only.

No.

Radius authencation, is there one built in, i.e. do I have to use my own radius
server?

Yes, your own.

What kind of range can I get out of a AirPoint Total?  The prices I am getting
is around $380 per unit, is this correct?

20 miles + (did you read the specs and sB website?). Where are you getting them
for $380, and what qty?

What about installations on customer homes?  I can find the AirBridge Totals for
a little under $300. What else is everyone using to install these?  

I generally use a crescent wrench, drill, and some other tools depending on the
install. Electrical tape, suntan lotion, and Gatorade also come in handy.

What kind of warrenties are with these products?

Check www.smartbridges.com

If I wanted to get a 360 radius from my tower of 150 foot, how many access
points would I need?

Need: 1, Want: ?, need more info

What kind of site survey equipment is best and simplest to use?

Depends on personal preference. I like to bring along my portable custom built
rig.

Anyone want to share what they are doing to help offset customer costs of
equipment?

Nothing. I don't deal with people who can't pay for the install and equip costs
- these are the same folks who want 1.5Mbps for $20/month. Although, I do eat
the cost of electrical tape, suntan lotion, and other supplies.

Thanx in advance,

Your welcome. 

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