According to Marlin, they are considering an AP using directional antenna as
falling under the PtP rules....from what I remember from the other list this
came from the FCC official at the last WISPCON.

JH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eje Gustafsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Mooring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Only getting 300K from Ranchos Access Point


> for ptmp base station your NEVER allowed to go over 36dB.  The 3 to 1
> rule is only for point to point or client to base communication where
> 1dB drop in radio power can be substituted with 3dB gain on antenna so
> you can do 48dB (24dB radio and 24dB antenna which is -6dB on radio
> and +18dB on antenna from the base 30dB and 6dB)
>
> Best regards,
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> JM> RE: [smartBridges] Only getting 300K from Ranchos Access PointOK, one
last
> JM> thing on the amp and then an actual answer to help my fellow WISP'er.
>
> JM> Remember when calculating your total output that the FCC only allows
36dBm
> JM> EIRP (4 watts)! Transmitted power must be configured correctly to
prevent
> JM> potential interference problems due to the effective isotropic
radiated
> JM> power exceeding the limits as defined in FCC part 15.247(i). As
defined in
> JM> FCC part 15.247(i), the power transmitted by the transmitter can only
have a
> JM> maximum power level of 1 watt or 30dBm. The antenna can only have a
maximum
> JM> gain of 6dBi. If the power at the transmitter is lowered by 1dB, the
antenna
> JM> gain can be increased by an additional 3dB. For example, if an
installation
> JM> reduced power at the transmitter to 29dBm, it could use an antenna
having a
> JM> gain of 9dBi. In general, for every 1dB power reduction at the
transmitter
> JM> from 30dBm, an installation can add 3dB gain at the antenna. A
breakdown of
> JM> transmitter versus antenna gain is as follows: 30dBm transmit - 6dBi
antenna
> JM> ... 29dBm transmit - 9dBi antenna ... 28dBm transmit - 12dBi antenna
...
> JM> 27dBm transmit - 15dBi antenna ... 26dBm transmit - 18dBi antenna ...
25dBm
> JM> transmit - 21dBi antenna ... 24dBm transmit - 24dBi antenna
>
> JM> Your 5Watt amp translates to 37dBm on its own without the radio or
antenna.
>
> JM> But back to your problem with speed. Change the mtu size on your
clients to
> JM> something higher than factory Microsoft, and set the Fragmetation
Threshhold
> JM> to about 1496 (play with this setting to get the best result)
>
> JM> Please be weary of uncle Charley, he may pay us all a visit when we
least
> JM> expect it.
>
> JM> John Mooring
> JM>   -----Original Message-----
> JM>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> JM> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of phantam
> JM>   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:30 PM
> JM>   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> JM>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Only getting 300K from Ranchos Access
Point
>
>
> JM>   Ahh buh humbug im putting up 20db 120 sectors with 750mw amps and
> JM> smartbridges at max output :) Lets see my competitors talk over that
since
> JM> they liked causing too much noise before MUHAHAHAHAA although I am not
in
> JM> the US so its kewl :)
>
> JM>   Try simplespeed, is that kB or kb if its kb then im not sure what
could be
> JM> wrong, whats the speed from the APPO to the noc have u tested this
> JM> throughput?
>
> JM>   Chris
>
> JM>   -----Original Message-----
> JM>   From: Jerry Bacon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> JM>   Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:25 PM
> JM>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> JM>   I don't see how you can be within legal limits. The amp output is
+27dBm
> JM> and
> JM>   the antenna adds 14dB to that giving you an EIRP of about +41dBm
less the
> JM>   cable losses. Seems to me that it's about 4 or 5dB over the limit.
>
> JM>   --
> JM>   Jerry B.
>
> JM>   "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
worlds,
> JM> and
> JM>   the pessimist fears this is true." - James Cabell
>
> JM>   ----- Original Message -----
>
> JM>   The power on the radio is set to stay within legal limits.
>
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